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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 in Argentina: what would Kasparov do?

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 15:00:51 07/21/04

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On July 21, 2004 at 13:17:26, George Sobala wrote:

>It has been claimed that a REAL super GM would also have struggled to get a good
>TPR against such lowly opposition as Shredder faced in Argentina.
>
>To investigate this further, I posed the question: how would Kasparov have
>performed?
>
>To do this, I have looked at all games played by Kasparov against opponents with
>ELO 2200 to 2500 from the year 1990, as recorded in Chess Assistant Hugebase,
>with updates.
>
>His results are:
>
>+57 =23 -2
>
>Assuming average opponent ELO is 2350 (I cannot be bothered to calculate it
>exactly and this is about right):
>
>TPR = 2632,  95% CI = 2538 to 2683
>
>Haha! Kasparov, like Shredder-8, is undone by weak opponents!
>

 Yes, if someone has a 2700+ FIDE-ELO rating, this normally means that he would
have a tournament performance rating of about the same as his FIDE-ELO, if he
plays on a tournament with some players. But it is a fact that although this is
true for tournaments with players that have a FIDE-ELO of more than 2600, when
the FIDE-ELO decreases and it is about 2300-2400 it is VERY difficult to keep
your FIDE-ELO on the same level. Instead it is almost a rule that the 2700+
player would have a TPR much lower. That is why high rated players avoid playing
in those tournaments. The reputation of their high rating would be in danger.
 So the fact that Shredder had a TPR much lower than the excpected it is not
something that can make us conclude anything about the FIDE-ELO of Shredder.

 Also some other reasons for the not best TPR of Shredder is that it used a book
that is commercially available. Also the machine it was running was not the best
available. There are now available quad's or 8x machines.

 And also the TPR performance of Shredder in a tournament of 2.431 mean
FIDE-ELO, doesn't say anything about the expected TRP of Shredder in another
tournament of 2.700 mean FIDE-ELO. I bet the second TPR would have been much
higher and Shredder could even win the tournament.

 Also the behaviour of computer's ELO is strange. They can win a 2700+ player
and they can draw a 2000 player. This comes from their HUGE weakness to play
well at closed games. If one player succeeds to create a closed game then the
game can be drawn by him. And this weakness comes from their incompetence to
plan. Until humans(programmers) find a way to solve this computers will play
3000+ at open game, 2700+ at semi-open games, and 2400- at closed games.




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