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Subject: Re: A move to search 2nd... Keep in the trans table?

Author: Eric Oldre

Date: 20:03:59 07/21/04

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On July 21, 2004 at 22:09:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 21, 2004 at 16:55:07, Eric Oldre wrote:
>>lets say you are searching a position with iterative deepening.
>>at depths 3,4,5 it finds a best move of Qd3. then at depth 6
>>the best move changes to c4.
>>When you start searching to depth 7, you clearly would want the
>>first move you search to be c4, and this shouldn't be a problem
>>if your transposition tables are working right. Since the best
>>move should be stored in it.
>>however, a good move to try 2nd would be Qd3, but your transposition
>>tables aren't going to let you know that, at least not in the implementations
>>that I have normally heard about.
>>I was thinking that one way to overcome this would be to keep 2 "best" moves
>>in the trans table. one to try first, and one that was a best move, before
>>being replaced by a deeper search.
>>Are other people doing this? or have you discovered that the cost is greater
>>than the benefit?
>Nobody uses the transposition table to order the moves at ply=1.

Well not quite, I do!

Of course i hope to get that replaced in the future with something better. :)

> Much easier is
>to just generate the ply=1 move list before you start the search, and as you
>find a new best move, move it to the top of the list, pushing others down 1
>slot.  This makes you search the best move from the previous iteration first,
>then the next-best move from the previous iteration second, etc...

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