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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 in Argentina: you didn't mean to say that, did you?

Author: George Sobala

Date: 00:47:42 07/22/04

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On July 22, 2004 at 01:22:51, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On July 21, 2004 at 16:04:02, George Sobala wrote:
>
>>... I asked, "what would Kasparov do against the same opposition", not "what
>>would Shredder 8 do against Kasparov".
>
>Yes, but that was not the real Shredder, but just the commercial version (one of
>them as there is the UCI one which is stronger) and running on a slow computer.
>
>Sandro


Sandro

Let me start by explaining that I have *enormous* respect for Shredder as an
engine, and for its programming team.

As such a friend, I would caution you to be more careful with your choice of
words, and you may wish to retract your last comment. Are you really claiming
that the engine which you have sold to the world is "not the REAL Shredder"??

You have advertised it on www.chessbase.com as "Shredder 8 – Double World
Champion 2003. For most computer chess experts Shredder is the number one
choice. Nobody can ignore its amazing five computer chess world championship
titles, won at Jakarta 1996, Paderborn 1999, London 2000, Maastricht 2001 and
Graz 2003. So in the Shredder 8 box you have the reigning double world champion
2003, ready to play and analyse with you."

And now you tell us that actually it is not the REAL Shredder in the box! What
is that noise I hear? Oh - it is the sound of lawyers hyperventilating with
excitement.

Furthermore, the above is completely irrelevant to my point. I am sure you can
coax extra performance from Shredder with extra tweaks, processors and killer
books. So what? It is the commercial version running on a lowly AMD 1200 that
has an SSDF score of 2818. The same commercial version (on FASTER hardware) has
a TPR less than 2600 in a tournament.

SSDF!=ELO

Some of us already knew that, but many didn't.




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