Author: Will Singleton
Date: 16:39:12 07/24/04
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On July 24, 2004 at 15:24:19, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>On July 24, 2004 at 14:33:11, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>[d]1r2b1k1/p3b1pp/1r2q3/3pN3/8/1P1BQ2P/P1R2PP1/2R3K1 w - - bm Nc4
>>
>>from an ICC game today, Amateur failed to find it, preferring Re2
>
>Is Re2 so bad? What was the game continuation?
>
>If I force Re2 I get a score of about -2.5 after 13 ply.
>
>Warp alternates between Nc4 and Re2, prefering Re2 at depth 13 (when I stopped
>the search). Personally I like Nc4 better as it simplifies but I wouldn't be
>surprised if Re2 also won.
>
>cheers,
>Peter
Chessmaster thinks the moves are about equal:
Ng4 Qxe3 Nxe3 d4 Nd5 1.72
Re2 Bd6 Qd4 Bf7 Nc6 Qh6 Rcc2 1.76
Shredder 7.04 thinks Nc4 is better:
Ng4 Qxe3 Nxe3 d4 Nd5 2.46
Re2 Bf6 Rce1 Qxe5 Qxe5 Rxe5 2.16
I think Nc4 gives white better chances, since the Re2 line is pretty drawish.
Speaking of simplifying, if black allows his bishop to be exchanged for the
knight in the following position, seems like it makes it much easier for white
to go for the win:
[d]8/4k1N1/1p2b2p/2bp4/5P1p/1P1B3P/P3K1P1/8 b - - 0 56 bm ?
[Event "ICC 45 10"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2004.07.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Amateur"]
[Black "thebaron"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D52"]
[WhiteElo "2514"]
[BlackElo "2442"]
[Annotator "Will Singleton"]
[PlyCount "166"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
[TimeControl "2700+10"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. e3 Qa5 7. Nd2 Bb4 8. Qc2
O-O 9. Be2 e5 10. O-O exd4 11. Nb3 Qc7 12. Nxd4 dxc4 13. Bxc4 Qa5 14. Bxf6 Nxf6
15. Rac1 Qh5 16. h3 Bd7 17. Be2 Qg5 18. Nf3 Qh5 19. Rfd1 Be7 20. Qa4 Rfd8 21.
Qf4 Qf5 22. Qc7 Qe6 23. e4 Bf8 24. e5 Nd5 25. Nxd5 cxd5 26. Qxb7 Be8 27. Rd2
Rdb8 28. Qa6 Rb6 29. Qd3 Rab8 30. b3 Bb4 31. Rdc2 f6 32. Qd4 Be7 33. Bd3 fxe5
34. Nxe5 Rb4 35. Qe3 R4b6 36. Re2 (36. Nc4 {may be better})
Bd6 37. Qd4 R6b7 38. Ng4 Qf7 39. Ne5 Qe6 40. Qh4 Qh6 41. Qxh6 gxh6 42. Ng4 Kf8
43. Nf6 Bf7 44. Ba6 Re7 45. Rc6 Rb6 46. Rxb6 axb6 47. Kf1 Rxe2 48. Kxe2 Ke7
49. Ng4 h5 50. Ne3 Kf6 51. Bd3 h6 52. Nf5 Bc5 53. f4 Be6 54. Ng3 h4
55. Nh5+ Ke7 56. Ng7 Bd4 (56... Bd7 {keeping both bishops looks better})
57. Nxe6 Kxe6 58. Kf3 Ke7 59. Kg4 Be3 60.Kf5 Kd6 61. Ba6 Bc1 62. Kg4 Be3
63. Bd3 Kc5 64. Ba6 Kd4 65. Bb7 Ke4 66. a4 Bxf4
67. Kxh4 Ke5 68. Ba6 Ke4 69. b4 Bd2 70. Kh5 d4 71. Bb7+ Ke3 72. Kxh6 Bxb4 73.
h4 d3 74. h5 Kf2 75. Kg6 d2 76. Bf3 Bc3 77. h6 d1=Q 78. Bxd1 Kg3
(78... Kxg2 79. Kf7 Kf2 80. Kg8 Ke3 81. h7 Kd3 82. h8=Q Bxh8 83. Kxh8 +-)
79. Bf3 Be5 80. Kf7 Bd4 81. h7 Kf4 82. g4 Bc3 83. Kg8 Bd4 {Black resigns} 1-0
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