Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:55:32 07/25/04
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On July 25, 2004 at 07:49:43, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 25, 2004 at 07:43:57, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 25, 2004 at 07:21:20, Ingo Bauer wrote: >> >>>On July 25, 2004 at 06:26:14, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I was surprised to see that all the cheap engines that chessbase is selling are >>>>free engines. >>>> >>>>I was also surprised that they sell old version of Sos from march 2000 but maybe >>>>they believe that customers that buy engines instead of downloading them >>>>deserve to get a worse version >>>> >>>>See http://www.chessbase.com/shop/index.asp?cat=Engines+direct&user=&coin= >>>> >>>>I wonder if the authors also earn money from it. >>>>If few people want to support programmers by buying free programs because they >>>>feel uncomfortable with downloading them when the author gets nothing from it >>>>then there is no problem with it but I expect honest company to tell the >>>>customers that the things that they buy are free to download and if they buy >>>>them then it is only if they want to give some support to the programmers. >>> >>>What you are writing is not completly true. >>> >>>Chessbase sold (and is probably selling) these engines since 2000. At that point >>>ALL the engines on that CD where not freely available (maybe precessors but not >>>the CD Version). As an example SOS in an older Version where free but the >>>version on that CD is not free untill today. >>>But if the CD Version is better than the actual one is highly doubtfull! >>> >>>I am pretty sure that the authors back then got some money from chessbase. It >>>didnt make them rich for sure. The project was never continued by Chessbase. >> >>This is exactly the point. >>The project was never continued by chessbase and I find illogical to continue to >>sell engines when all of them are free or there are better versions that are >>free. >> >>customers who look at the chessbase page to see engines that they can buy may >>become angry when they see that chessbase want to sell them free engines and may >>decide not to buy from chessbase so I am even not sure if it is a good deal for >>chessbase. >> >>When they sold the young talents and part of the engines became free then I can >>understand their decision to continue to sell the young talents because part of >>the engines are still not free but when all the engines became free with no >>exception as far as I can see then I see no point in selling the engines unless >>they sell with them something else like a different interface but in that case >>they should say that the engines are free and customers who buy them only get >>new interface in case that they did not buy other engines from chessbase. >> >>I remember that I also asked how Sos got the best amateur in WCCC when it was >>sold by chessbase but if I remember correctly at that time it was sold as part >>of the young talents and not seperately. >> >>Uri > >Maybe I am wrong and I checked again and I do not remember a release of Ikarus >so maybe Ikarus is the only exception. > >Uri checking again for Ikarus chess in google it seems that there is a mistake in the following site http://www.aarontay.per.sg/Winboard/privateware.html They claim that Ikarus is a private chess engine when they miss the fact that chessbase still sell it today not as part of the young talents but as a seperate engine. I think that it is better to delete Ikarus from the list of the private engines. Uri
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