Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Crafty TBs access question

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 11:44:23 07/25/04

Go up one level in this thread


On July 25, 2004 at 14:19:13, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>Hi Peter
>
>>>Is this related to some *.rc mistake I made?
>>
>>Most probably not - it looks more like Crafty's infamous swindle mode ;) .
>>
>>Add
>>
>>swindle off
>>
>>to your crafty.rc file to avoid this feature.
>
>I should have asked you directly!
>
>If it is the swindle mode how can Crafty be sure that it is not doing something
>wrong within the 5 piece Tbs. There is for sure absolutly NO acces to the HD
>anymore. I see 99% CPU usage.
>
>I doubt that there is a connection but I will add "swindle off". I see no sence
>in that mode if I use "computer". Should'nt the engine switch off swindling (?)
>automaticly.

The idea behind swindle mode is clever IMHO . Crafty will have a brief look at
the tablebases to find out about the valid move candidates, then search them to
find out which is most promising to squeeze more than the theoretical draw out
of it.

It is more interesting against humans who usually have no tablebase access, it
won't drop its final pawn in KRPKR as its drawn anyway e.g. In engine-engine
matches with both being able to use tablebases it's useless of course.

>
>>
>>>It is the Shredder Classic GUI I am using with WB-Protokoll I.
>>
>>Another comment. There are a few issues with the WinBoard support of Shredder
>>Classic GUI (esp some interpretations what commands to send to engines) . You
>>are probably better of with a WB2UCI Setup IMHO ( and no, I don't claim this
>>will make a significant difference).
>
>Thats something you told me allready, but I could not see anything unusual up
>till now and wanted to keep any "foreign" influence as minimal as possible.

I mentioned it just because you are a perfectionist, it is no important issue.


>
>I am starting to dream of an easy UCI Crafty or at least for a common set of
>ini-commands for WB-Engines but that is like asking for a WB-Fritz (which I woul
>not use either)! :-(
>The preparation with Crafty.rc for a non experienced WB user lasts as long as my
>whole match! 4 days, and I still find some "unusual" behavior with that
>configuration. If Crafty would not be the reference I would allready have dumped
>it!

Crafty is easy to setup if you ask me. You just have to deal with crafty.rc.

Set hash, hashp, cache and tbpath and everything else is best with default
settings anyway.

Problems are very academical . For one , people don't use WinBoard or XBoard
which asks for a few problem which have exactly nothing to do with Crafty - or,
they want to have the fastest executable, compiled with all the coolest compiler
switches - so they need time to see what is fastest.

All the best
Peter






This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.