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Subject: How can chess players be so ignorant?

Author: Derek Paquette

Date: 13:43:13 07/26/04


Ok, i'm a proud owner of some chessbase programs and I go on there a lot

there is a user named DarkNolan,
somethink he cheats, some don't.

I for one think he cheats, so i was on there today just a moment ago 4:45 est
monday.

And this guy is playing obvious computer moves, in fact someone even analyzed
one of his games and all his moves were DF8's first pick,

but df8 has a personality , and you can change its style, or he can change
programs etc etc, I need not explain all the different variations of play from
different programs (you people aren't stupid)

So I was very fed up with this man, and some others were aswell, so i asked
NOlan if he'd agree to a chess quiz., he agreed.

people started asking him questions about chess opening theory,

as i predicted he dodged all the questions
below is a transcript of the chat, after i asked him to do the quiz
i wasn't on my best behaviour as i have seen this a hundred times on many
servers, and the same damn people are having wet dreams over these super
grandmasters that they THINK are on the site



->General: Nolan
->General: let me ask you a bit of
chess trivia
Cold confusion (General): means your in
with a chance i guess
->General: actually nevermind
->General: don't think you'd agree
anyway
Blind_Sniper (General): lol, you'r
good, omega
Santa_anna_mx: what mean sysop in
spanish????
Santa_anna_mx: ??
Cold confusion (General): omega 13 is
that the stuff in fish thats good for
the brain
->General: blind sniper
->General: think about this
->General: woudln't answering a few
chess trivia questions on openings
->General: and things like that prove
that he's not just a patzer with a
program?
->General: and immediate responses are
needed so he can't google the answers?
Cold confusion (General): oh you think
nolan is a chess cheat hmmmm
Blind_Sniper (General): maybe you'r
right, but he doesn't need to do
that...
Barry67: who is cheating?
->General: exactly, "i dont have to
prove anything to you"
->General: i figured as much
Blind_Sniper (General): that's your
point, take a shot
->General: but i'm just saying, even an
inaction is an action
Cold confusion (General): have you run
his games through a computer
Blind_Sniper (General): sure
Blind_Sniper (General): all of the
games
->General: its hard to say cold fusion,
because there are hundreds of programs,
and hundreds of personalities for each
program
->General: and there is 'random' move
Cunningham (General): "it's hard to
say" but you KNOW lol
->General: he could have his own
program for all we know, i just want
him to answer a few chess trivia
questions,
->General: no its hard to figure out
WHICH program
Cold confusion (General): but 3 min
games should be full of mistakes even
at gm level
Blind_Sniper (General): the site has
admins, omega, and that's their job
DarkNolan (General): what do you want
to know omega
Cunningham (General): a computer is a
computer, you always recognize its
stupid style - Nolan in NOT playing
like a computer
Cunningham (General): is
Da Borg (General): who are u nolan?
Blind_Sniper (General): well, take your
shot omega
DarkNolan (General): except that of
course
Da Borg (General): thats what we all
what to know
Blind_Sniper (General): lol
Trop_nul (General): Kamsky, for sure. I
bet my paycheck
->General: ok
->General: here is it
Blind_Sniper (General): what's your
hair color? are you short(not the
player)? thin or fat? glasses?
DarkNolan (General): lol no personal
questions
Platão (General): Do you play on ICC
Nolan?
TravisK (General): i'm jat
DarkNolan (General): yes i play on icc
Kanguro97 (General): shut up idiots
->General: there is an openning called
the Leton Gambit, what are the first 4
moves
DarkNolan (General): leton gambit?
->General: yes
Quarkzubereitung (General): On ICC :)
Cunningham (General): ahahaahha
Cunningham (General): LETON
DarkNolan (General): lol dude i have no
idea what that is
Trop_nul (General): Omega, you're
ridiculous
Cunningham (General): LETON
Cunningham (General): ahahahah
Blind_Sniper (General): me niether
Geust31415926 (General): bei dem
englisch könnt ich mir vorstellen er
ist jemand der sein zweites buch
vorbereitet ...
Blind_Sniper (General): leton???
Cunningham (General): lol
Bernoulli (General): latvian?!
->General: thats d4. d5 c4 e5
->General: just to let u know
Davidlhaydon (General): whats your
username on ICC darknolan
DarkNolan (General): ahh
Da Borg (General): what name u use in
icc?
Bernoulli (General): lol
Platão (General): So you must be
FortKnox...
DarkNolan (General): it sucks
INTELoutside (General): Why nobody ask
who I am ?
Blind_Sniper (General): lol
Trop_nul (General): I am ME !
->General: darknolan, thats 0-1
->General: so far
DarkNolan (General): lol
Tompie (General): this is albin's
counter gambit
Bernoulli (General): leton = albin
Cunningham (General): what are the
firsdt 2 moves of the pinguin opening?
He doesn't know - hes a program
ahahahah
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): ufightiwin
is a nice name
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): :D
Cunningham (General): Omega you are
funny
Blind_Sniper (General): yes, it's albin
Blind_Sniper (General): no leton
Tompie (General): maybe beton?
DarkNolan (General): never cared for
the names
->General: alright, i don't posses the
chess knowledge, not enough for this,
someone else to take over
DarkNolan (General): :-)
->General: never cared for the names?
Bernoulli (General): for non-europeans
perhaps
->General: so you dont know the names
of openings?
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): a name must
be a joke than its ideal
->General: thats a good way to dodge
DarkNolan (General): lol trust me i know the openings i play
->General: ya sure,
->General: someone quiz this man
->General: someone with chess knowledge.,
DarkNolan (General): who cares about albin, i maybe played
that like 2 times in my whole life
Blind_Sniper (General): I don't know nothing about theory,
lol
Cold confusion (General): what openings do u play nolan
Cunningham (General): What is the main recommendation from
Khalifman in the Berlin after Black's Bd7 ?
DarkNolan (General): i play a little bit of everything, d4,
e4, c4-rarely but yeah
Cunningham (General): :-)
DarkNolan (General): sicilians, spanish, caro
Cunningham (General): thats ugly , I know
DarkNolan (General): i hate french with black :)
Trop_nul (General): ok, one question , Why did you try so
much different openings during your match again Karpov ? ;-)
MWALEN (General): what abt the sicilian dirivative
DarkNolan (General): yeah berlin is tough
Davidlhaydon (General): darknolan whats your username on ICC?
DarkNolan (General): i don't really understand it
->General: listen to these ANSWERS!
INTELoutside (General): Omega if Nolan was registred with his
real name do you ask these silly question ?
->General: this is hilarious
Cunningham (General): hahah whoe does anyway
->General: no i wouldn't
->General: he'd dodging your questions,
Cunningham (General): I would lol
->General: ask him a question where he has to answer with a
concrete answer.
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): d4 d5 e4 dxe c4?
DarkNolan (General): lol
DarkNolan (General): this is funny guys :)
->General: not "dont like that one" or "don't really care for
name" or "that sucks"
->General: see what i mean?
Trop_nul (General): what about my question, darknolan ?
Cunningham (General): the fact he admints he doesn't
understand the Berlin already makes me sure he's a very
strong GM :-)
DarkNolan (General): what question, too much stuff going on
Blind_Sniper (General): are you a master?
DarkNolan (General): i'm a GM
Blind_Sniper (General): us?
Bernoulli (General): when did you get the title?
DarkNolan (General): and i'm from the US. that's all you need
to know
Cold confusion (General): are you animal mineral or vegtible
Davidlhaydon (General): what is your latest fide?
Trop_nul (General): I asked why you used so much differents
opening in your match again Karpov ?
MWALEN (General): no your not your a ford
Blind_Sniper (General): so you'r not kasparov ;-)
MWALEN (General): ;-]
->General: this is so stupid, he hasn't answered a single
question
Davidlhaydon (General): bobby fischer :)
DarkNolan (General): omega ask any gm
Cunningham (General): do you have a pet, Nolan?
MWALEN (General): maybe a mazda
->General: and if he answers a question we asked 10 minutes
ago, he's been googling it for 9 minutes
DarkNolan (General): see what they say
Blind_Sniper (General): he's right, omega
Blind_Sniper (General): look at his profile
Einladung zum Turnier von Häring im Raum 'Turniere > Privat
D': Hello everybody! We play 3+0 Swiss System, 7 rounds,
rated. ALL WELCOME! Start: 10.30 pm Swiss Time. :-) -----
Hallo zusammen! Wir spielen 3+0 Schweizer System, 7 Runden,
gewertet. JEDE(R) IST WILLKOMMEN! Start: 22.30 Uhr Schweizer
Zeit. :-)
Blind_Sniper (General): he played a lot of gms
Blind_Sniper (General): they aren't dumb
->General: so? i did too when i cheated on another server,
big deal
->General: some are very stupid
DarkNolan (General): chess is mostly pattern recognition
Blind_Sniper (General): they know when they are playing a
prog
DarkNolan (General): gms rely on that to win
Einladung zum Turnier von Häring im Raum 'Turniere > Privat
D': Hello everybody! We play 3+0 Swiss System, 7 rounds,
rated. ALL WELCOME! Start: 10.30 pm Swiss Time. :-) -----
Hallo zusammen! Wir spielen 3+0 Schweizer System, 7 Runden,
gewertet. JEDE(R) IST WILLKOMMEN! Start: 22.30 Uhr Schweizer
Zeit. :-)
Foppe gele (General): Thanx Martin!
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): bobby fischer is arrested in
japan illegal passport
Cold confusion (General): thats old ews
Cold confusion (General): news
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): a bad end for the ex world
champion of 1972
Farmer141 (General): i always knew Fischer was a feign
->General: dark nolan
DarkNolan (General): that's why there are only all those guys
at top all the time, because they train hard to memorize all
those variations they studied at home
Tasos (General): DLUGE ?
->General: these are typical generic answers, i could easily
type that, everyone knows that
Farmer141 (General): exactly Dark thats y i can beat u!
->General: this is nothing new, we want answers
->General: someone quiz him on an opening, my lord
->General: how hard is this?
Tompie (General): Holger?
Trop_nul (General): please , Dark, is that why you tried so
differents openings aain karpov ?
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): thats kindergarden what has he
done he only played chess at the wrong region lol
->General: or don't you want to know...
DarkNolan (General): what result you seek?
Farmer141 (General): I AM THE GREATEST!!!
->General: thx for the game, quiz him on an opening
Blind_Sniper (General): ok, modern opening, what are the
moves? (I don't know either :-))
DarkNolan (General): what will that quiz accomplish
Cunningham (General): right
Einladung zum Turnier von Häring im Raum 'Turniere > Privat
D': Hello everybody! We play 3+0 Swiss System, 7 rounds,
rated. ALL WELCOME! Start: 10.30 pm Swiss Time. :-) -----
Hallo zusammen! Wir spielen 3+0 Schweizer System, 7 Runden,
gewertet. JEDE(R) IST WILLKOMMEN! Start: 22.30 Uhr Schweizer
Zeit. :-)
Cunningham (General): its useless
->General: i can't believe this, you people are buying this
crap
Blind_Sniper (General): I think it too
Magnum is here (Main Playing Hall)
->General: magnum!
->General: there we go
->General: get him to quiz him
->General: magnum, please be there
MWALEN (General): how many GM's live in california and then
do the process of elimination
Cold confusion (General): nolan what is the main feature of
the sicilion dragon
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): my favorit opening is albin with
black but not many play it its nice chaotic
Tompie (General): sysop!
DarkNolan (General): lol i can only tell you that on ICC i
specialize in playing every new computer and trying to beat
it with 3 knights
Blind_Sniper (General): hey, darknolan, what are the color of
the american flag?
Holger_Lieske (General): Tompie, das ist NICHT der Hilfe
Kanal
Farmer141 (General): seems as if Dark endured quite the
beating today
->General: seems like he's dodged every question
->General: with non sense
DarkNolan (General): sometimes it's a good day and sometimes
its a bad day :)
Platão (General): Are u playing as GM on ICC? Or just
ordinary handle?
MWALEN (General): he lives in the Los Angeles area
->General: just like i thought he would
->General: ya right
DarkNolan (General): i'm registered on icc of course
Cunningham (General): lol don't put oil into the flame,
Farmer
Farmer141 (General): if i got beat like Dark did today i
would probably quit the gamve
DarkNolan (General): this server, you guys have a lot of
cheaters here
Cunningham (General): haha Lieske read THAT
Farmer141 (General): aint that right Nolan?!
DarkNolan (General): yeah i helped the admins with that
problem on icc
INTELoutside (General): chessbase will stop selling chess
progs
Cunningham (General): Nolan is it worse than on ICCC
(cheating) ?
Einladung zum Simultan von Deep grey im Raum
'Simultanvorstellungen > Simultan B': Elo 0-2000, 1m + 0s.
Elo: 0-2000 Super Simultan, Fee is 1 Dukate. Come and Join!
(Win:1 Dukate)
Cunningham (General): ICC
Farmer141 (General): ireally would hate to be u Nolan
DarkNolan (General): yes worse
Cunningham (General): wow
Einladung zum Turnier von Häring im Raum 'Turniere > Privat
D': Hello everybody! We play 3+0 Swiss System, 7 rounds,
rated. ALL WELCOME! Start: 10.30 pm Swiss Time. :-) -----
Hallo zusammen! Wir spielen 3+0 Schweizer System, 7 Runden,
gewertet. JEDE(R) IST WILLKOMMEN! Start: 22.30 Uhr Schweizer
Zeit. :-)
Cunningham (General): I would have thought the other way
around
Farmer141 (General): :0(
DarkNolan (General): then of course you guys don't have that
famous guest-fischer whole thing lol
Cunningham (General): ahahah
Blind_Sniper (General): or kasparov
Farmer141 (General): im too good
Cunningham (General): not that often
INTELoutside (General): we have guest-Nolan
Blind_Sniper (General): lol
Cunningham (General): hehe
Blind_Sniper (General): and norabelle
Cunningham (General): our Fisher replacement killer
Blind_Sniper (General): and raffael
Blind_Sniper (General): who is raffael?
Tasos (General): MAXIM 38
Blind_Sniper (General): his rank is king, without a single
game played
Farmer141 (General): Are u provoking me Nolan!
DarkNolan (General): no i'm waiting for the bloody kid to
show up from his lunch
DarkNolan (General): so i can kick his ass
Cunningham (General): :-)
INTELoutside (General): lol
Da Borg (General): hey I'll play u while u wait nolan
MWALEN (General): who that
->General: borg
->General: borg, what is your rating?
Cunningham (General): when he's stuffed and all his blood is
in his stomach he's an easy prey :-)
Da Borg (General): let me see
Tournament invitation from VonNeumann in room 'Tornei >
Stanza privata C': Bullet Tournament 1+0 minutes Everyone
welcome but please notice that lags over 1.5 seconds will not
be accepted
->General: borg
Da Borg (General): 1883
->General: i got nolan aswering questions, a chess quiz
->General: ask him a quesiton, see if he will answer
->General: he wont :)
->General: he'd dodging all the questions
DarkNolan (General): lol sorry guys i'm trying to read
soemthing while waiting, hope kid shows up as he promised,
cause breaking promises damages your honor
->General: you speak of honor? lol
Da Borg (General): ok, heres one...are u a top ten GM
->General: thats so funny
Farmer141 (General): Nolan if u want i can he the pot really
quick and beat u in a few rounds
Farmer141 (General): *heat
DarkNolan (General): yes klingon honor :)
->General: borg, ask him a question about opening theory
Farmer141 (General): :0o
Da Borg (General): ok, what are the first three moves of the
kings gambit
DarkNolan (General): heheh yeah i heard about that
DarkNolan (General): lol
Farmer141 (General): yah i like some star trek myself
Booba (General): e4 e5 f4
DarkNolan (General): e4,f4 and then either bc4 or nf3?
DarkNolan (General): lol the "evergreen" game andersson with
someone
DarkNolan (General): white wins
Farmer141 (General): nope
Tournament invitation from VonNeumann in room 'Tornei >
Stanza privata C': Bullet 1+0 minute tournament in room
Private C - Come and join us, players needed!!! Start in 5
minutes
DarkNolan (General): famous stuff
Topazg82 (General): What is scholar's mate ?
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): or e4 e5 f4 d5
Farmer141 (General): yes
THX_FOR_THE_GAMe (General): falkenbeer
Geust31415926 (General): der typ hat tatsächlich kaum plan
DarkNolan (General): scholar's mate? heh, dude you still
learning that?
Da Borg (General): in what episode did i assimilate humanity?
Cunningham (General): what is the best game ever played in
your opinion, Dark ?
Topazg82 (General): Nah, just interested, never seen it
played before
Cunningham (General): Not a quiz, just curious
DarkNolan (General): yeah one of my favorite was i , borg
->General: darknolan, answer the damn question
Farmer141 (General): iwill assimilate u all!
Topazg82 (General): Strikes me as something not likely to
happen, kinda like Fools mate
Da Borg (General): lol
Cunningham (General): Omega stay polite
->General: now he's searching on the net, this is hilarious
->General: he won't answer!
->General: lol
Cunningham (General): AND
DarkNolan (General): omega you do realize i have multiple
tells going on as well right?
Vhizz (General): f4 e5 g4 qh4#is scholars mate
Farmer141 (General): who here wants to follow the path of
Farmer?
Da Borg (General): nolan is a character, good for this site i
guess
->General: still no answer
Cunningham (General): he is not obliged to answer you, Omega
Nyx is here (Main Playing Hall)
->General: yes borg, i agree
->General: he's a fake account or just a cheater, one or the
other
Topazg82 (General): Vhizz, I think that's Fools mate
Geust31415926 (General): i needed 14 seconds for "modern
opening" a few minutes ago ...
Topazg82 (General): Scholars was about 10 moves long or
something if I remember correctly
Holger_Lieske (General): bye Omega, chat cutted
Vhizz (General): hmm...
Cunningham (General): cool
INTELoutside (General): Omega you're more and more ridiculous
Cunningham (General): finally



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