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Subject: Re: After a5, Ruffian says Draw :-)

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 09:00:02 07/27/04

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On July 27, 2004 at 11:44:26, David Dahlem wrote:

>On July 27, 2004 at 11:10:18, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>There appears to be a serious flaw in the Fritz Program in regard to
>>positional understanding of some simple endgame positions.
>>
>>Example:
>>
>>
>>
>>[D]  8/7p/4k3/1K4b1/P7/3p3P/8/4B3 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>
>>1. -+ (-2.06): 58.a5 d2 59.Bxd2 Bxd2 60.a6 Be3 61.Kc6 Kf5 62.Kb7 Kf4 63.h4 h5
>>64.Kc6 Kg3 65.Kc7 Bf2 66.Kb8 Kxh4
>>2. -+ (-2.06): 58.Kc4 d2 59.Bxd2 Bxd2 60.a5 Ke5 61.Kd3
>>
>>
>>Hiarchs & Crafty immediately spot it, and show the correct move.
>>
>>Congratulations to them!
>>
>>BTW.. How does your Engine do?
>>Good Test Position.
>>
>>The above position is from a Correspondence game where both players
>>must have used Fritz, and followed the Eval.
>>Black won.
>>
>>Both are strong players, who shall remain anonymous, so as not to embarrass
>>them.
>>Had they not used Program help, they should have easily seen the correct
>>Drawing method.
>>CY
>
>[D]8/7p/4k3/1K4b1/P7/3p3P/8/4B3 w - - 0 1
>
>After forcing a5, Ruffian 2.1.0 says its a draw. :-)

The Baron says draw too. It needs just 1 second for it:

 ply       time        nodes   score  pv
  6(11)&   0:00.03     13003   +1.66  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Be3-d4 Kc6-b7
  6(15).   0:00.08     24875   +1.66  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Be3-d4 Kc6-b7
  7(12)&   0:00.09     33048   +1.72  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Ke6-f5 Kc6-b7 Kf5-e4
  7(14).   0:00.13     48524   +1.72  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Ke6-f5 Kc6-b7 Kf5-e4
  8(18)-   0:00.28    108729   +1.37  d3-d2 (Be1xd2) (Bg5xd2) (a5-a6) (Bd2-e3) (
Kb5-c6)
                                      (Ke6-f5) (Kc6-b7) (Kf5-e4) (a6-a7) (h7-h5)

  8(18)-   0:00.45    168514   +0.47  d3-d2 (Be1xd2) (Bg5xd2) (a5-a6) (Bd2-e3) (
Kb5-c6)
                                      (Ke6-f5) (Kc6-b7) (Kf5-e4) (a6-a7) (h7-h5)

  8(18)&   0:00.45    172678   +0.39  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Ke6-f5 Kc6-b7 Kf5-e4 a6-a7 Be3xa7
  8(18).   0:00.52    189118   +0.39  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 a5-a6 Bd2-e3 Kb5-c6
                                      Ke6-f5 Kc6-b7 Kf5-e4 a6-a7 Be3xa7
  9(18)-   0:00.95    341685   +0.04  d3-d2 (Be1xd2) (Bg5xd2) (Kb5-c4) (Ke6-f5)
(Kc4-d3)
                                      (Bd2-f4) (a5-a6) (Bf4-b8) (Kd3-e3) (h7-h5)

  9(18)&   0:00.97    347225   +0.01  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 Kb5-c4 Ke6-f5 Kc4-d3
                                      Bd2-f4 a5-a6 Bf4-b8 Kd3-e3 h7-h5
  9(18).   0:01.03    384040   +0.01  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 Kb5-c4 Ke6-f5 Kc4-d3
                                      Bd2-f4 a5-a6 Bf4-b8 Kd3-e3 h7-h5
 10(16)&   0:01.16    420994   +0.01  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 Kb5-c4 Ke6-f5 Kc4-d3
                                      Bd2-f4 a5-a6 Bf4-b8 Kd3-e3 h7-h5 a6-a7
                                      Bb8xa7
 10(18).   0:01.38    510590   +0.01  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 Kb5-c4 Ke6-f5 Kc4-d3
                                      Bd2-f4 a5-a6 Bf4-b8 Kd3-e3 h7-h5 a6-a7
                                      Bb8xa7
 11(17)&   0:01.67    606653   +0.01  d3-d2 Be1xd2 Bg5xd2 Kb5-c4 Ke6-f5 Kc4-d3
                                      Bd2-f4 a5-a6 Bf4-b8 Kd3-e3 Bb8-a7 Ke3-f3
                                      h7-h5 h3-h4
>
>Ruffian 2.1.0
> 1   00:00 -0.52   1. ... h6
> 1   00:00 -0.58   1. ... h5
> 1   00:00 -2.72   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2
> 2   00:00 -2.19   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6
> 3   00:00 -2.29   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Ke5
> 4   00:00 -1.97   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6
> 5   00:00 -2.53   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6 Ba7
> 6   00:00 -2.52   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6 Ba7 5.h4
> 7   00:00 -2.16   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kb6 Be3+ 4.Kb7 Kf5 5.a6 Ke4 6.h4
> 8   00:00 -2.23   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kb6 Be3+ 4.Kc6 Ke5 5.a6 Bd4 6.Kb7 Ke4
> 9   00:00 -2.39   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kb6 Be3+ 4.Kc6 Ke5 5.a6 Kf4 6.Kb7 Kg3
>7.a7 Bxa7 8.Kxa7
>10   00:01 -2.24   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6 Kf5 5.Kb7 h5 6.a7 Bxa7
>7.Kxa7 h4 8.Kb6
>11   00:01 -2.24   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6 Kf5 5.Kb7 h5 6.a7 Bxa7
>7.Kxa7 h4 8.Kb6 Kf4
>12   00:02 -2.59   1. ... d2
>12   00:02 -2.93   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.a6 Be3 4.Kc6 Ke5 5.Kd7 Bf2 6.Kc7 Kf4
>7.Kd6 Kg3 8.h4 Kxh4
>13   00:05 -2.58   1. ... d2
>13   00:06  0.00   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kc4 Bxa5 4.Kd3 Kf5 5.Ke2 Kf4 6.Kf2
>Bd8 7.Kg2 h5 8.h4 Bxh4
>14   00:14  0.00   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kc4 Bxa5 4.Kd3 Kf5 5.Ke2 Kf4 6.Kf2
>Bd8 7.Kg2 h5 8.h4 Bxh4 9.Kh1
>15   00:24  0.00   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kc4 Bxa5 4.Kd3 Kf5 5.Ke2 Kf4 6.Kf2
>Bd8 7.Kg2 h5 8.h4 Bxh4 9.Kh1 Bf2
>16   00:47  0.00   1. ... d2 2.Bxd2 Bxd2 3.Kc4 Bxa5 4.Kd3 Kf5 5.Ke2 Kf4 6.Kf2
>Bd8 7.Kg2 h5 8.h4 Bxh4 9.Kh1 Bf2 10.Kg2



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