Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 01:32:56 07/29/04
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On July 29, 2004 at 03:22:54, Hristo wrote: >On July 28, 2004 at 18:34:32, Joshua Shriver wrote: > >>Has anyone here done a test of Apple's G5 vs an AMD Opteron? >> >> >>Right now, I'm at a critical state in my source code. >>While I do love Apple, I'm wondering which is better to go with. >>Apple G5's or AMD Opteron's (Intel Itanium is out of the equation... to >>expensive and not worth it comapred to Opteron) >> >>I've slaved over burgers, and over the year even tacos... I've saved up enough >>money... and can buy one or the other.. > >If you switch to lettuce you might be able to get a Cadillac too. :-) > >> >>Right now I really like and love the Apple G5... and to behonest... would love >>to have a G5... (but mostly as a desktop OS for my own enjoyment)... > >I would do exactly that! >The G5 is a more interesting CPU and the Apple systems are generally better than >the PCs (AMD, Intel). Even in the past Motorola CPU's had IMHO the "better" designs. 6502 versus 8080 or 68000 versus the "awful" 8086. Unfortunately, for what reasons ever, i allways programmed for Intel/AMD cpus. Thanks to AMD64 my "sympathy gap" between Intel/AMD and Motorola/IBM becomes narrower. > >I find it to be very entertaining to play with Altivec. Yes, it looks Altivec SIMD instructions are much more consistent than Intel's SIMD instructions: http://www.simdtech.org/apps/group_public/download.php/26/Altivec%20formatted.1.2.pdf What kind of algorithms did you try with Altivec? Did you tried Kogge-Stone sliding attack getters? What about a bit[64]*short[64] or bit[64]*byte[64] dot products? Thanks, Gerd >If you need the computer for general usage and you also enjoy unix then Apple is >the better choice. > >If you like to have full control of your system and are ready to live with a >few, small, problems then linux is your choice. > >I have both. >Linux is my playground where I get to experiment with everything and anything. >OS X is where I keep my home pictures and music and office documents. > >> >>Right now I'm leaning more toward "the better development LINUX server" > >On the server side linux is your buddy. There is hardly any comparison if you >can get around the text files in /etc ;-) and if you can use the shell and the >application then you might actually have fun while administering your machines. > >> >>What do you think is better... work, and lean toward (G5 asm coded cores, or AMD >>Opteron cores) what do you think is best. > >This is very subjective. I'm sure that each is better for some particular >application. However, IMHO, the G5 is a lot more fun!!! > >Best regards, >Hristo > >> >>Right now... I'm still working toward attending WCCC 2005 ... I have a 45 node >>Dual Opteron cluster in my reach... >> >>While I might do "both" I'd still like a basis for comparison for my original >>code... >> >> >>For now I plan to spend my "burger/taco" money on buying a Dual AMD Opteron" >>machin running Linux.. >> >>However I still the money for a dual G5.. >> >>Comments are appreciated... >> >>Sincerely, >>Joshua Shriver >> >> >>P.S. yes I'm using rotating bitboards.... and with my testing... I've found >>equal value within a normal G5 and Opteron...
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