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Subject: Re: Crafty 19.15 vs ShredderClassic-engine (long)

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 08:08:33 07/29/04

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On July 28, 2004 at 14:27:54, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>On July 28, 2004 at 14:09:13, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 2004 at 13:50:28, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>>You _do_ realize the irony of this post, when just yesterday you complained
>>about the zillions of options in Crafty, don't you ;) ?
>
>Hi Peter
>
>Yes and no!
>
>1. This is one GUI (how many real ones are there - 4 - 5)
>2. There is absolutly NO need to know all this to run the GUI, but you have to
>know the commands for this WB-engine, and for this engine, and for this engine
>and for this engine, and ... so on!

Hi Ingo,

What's the difference? How many "real" WinBoard engines are there? 4-5 ? With
"real" I mean those you would prefer to play against yourself or to use as your
analysis tools ( the same would apply to ChessBase engines of course). And if
you try the twentieth engine because you got addicted, you'll know all the
tricks anyway ;).

The average number of installed WinBoard engines on my computers is 1.5, and
this number looks even less impressive if you know that all of them have Yace ..
There was a time when I had 30 and more, collecting can be fun too.

>
>You are right that far, that of course someone has to learn something about the
>programm he wants to use.
>The problem is not CRAFTY as an entity for itself (4 day, now I think I now the
>most important things - overall acceptable), the problem is the diversity of
>wb-engines.

In 4 days you will be able to check some options even Bob might have forgotten
about ;). Anyway, I don't see the major difference to UCI- or ChessBase-engines
except ease of initial installation. Judging from discussions here you'll still
have to decide if you use the Runge, the Wizard or even the Deep Fritz book -
and what to choose as hashtable size ? How about that mysterious 1MB bug? Delete
learn files or not ? Or use Nunn positions ? And how? And is your computer fast
enough to show the true strength of engine XXX :) ?

Cheers
Peter



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