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Subject: Re: Crafty 19.15 vs ShredderClassic-engine (long)

Author: Ingo Bauer

Date: 10:38:14 07/29/04

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Hi

>>1. This is one GUI (how many real ones are there - 4 - 5)
>>2. There is absolutly NO need to know all this to run the GUI, but you have to
>>know the commands for this WB-engine, and for this engine, and for this engine
>>and for this engine, and ... so on!

>What's the difference? How many "real" WinBoard engines are there? 4-5 ? With
>"real" I mean those you would prefer to play against yourself or to use as your
>analysis tools ( the same would apply to ChessBase engines of course).

Ok, got me! There is exactly WB-protokoll only engine that could caused enough
attraction: Crafty!

>
>The average number of installed WinBoard engines on my computers is 1.5, and
>this number looks even less impressive if you know that all of them have Yace

Yace + Crafty you should write 2.5 and YACE can be used as a UCI engine, give it
a try :-)

>>The problem is not CRAFTY as an entity for itself (4 day, now I think I now the
>>most important things - overall acceptable), the problem is the diversity of
>>wb-engines.
>
>In 4 days you will be able to check some options even Bob might have forgotten
>about ;). Anyway, I don't see the major difference to UCI- or ChessBase-engines
>except "ease of initial installation"

"ease of initial installation" Is'nt that what we are talking about?

>Judging from discussions here you'll still
>have to decide if you use the Runge, the Wizard or even the Deep Fritz book -
>and what to choose as hashtable size ? How about that mysterious 1MB bug?
>learn files or not ? Or use Nunn positions ? And how? And is your computer fast
>enough to show the true strength of engine XXX :) ?

That are decisions I have to do allways despite the engines or protokolls I use
, except 1 MB bug, but that is not really a question for me ;-). If I use
aditionaly wb-engines then I have to start all that "how to" again.

You just have to look at the Fora how many questions are something like: Engine
XYZ is not doing this or that what am I doing wrong (or
close-to-that-questions). If they are done with all that it is starting again
with "How to configure WB2UCI. Or have a look at all the websites that try to
explain the installation of engine x,y and z; that offers ini and rc files for
the engines and ready made wb2UCI.eng files ... Please compare that to questions
regarding "real"-UCI-engine installations. Ever thought why this is like it is
for the WB-engines and not for UCI engines (Ok, lets assume there are 10% real
UCI questions!)

Bye
Ingo



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