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Subject: Re: Positional move for the amateurs

Author: John Merlino

Date: 10:39:44 07/30/04

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On July 30, 2004 at 13:03:39, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On July 30, 2004 at 10:55:07, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>The following position arose in a famous game between Taimanov and Karpov in
>>1973. Karpov sacrificed a pawn to prevent white from pushing c4, and obtain
>>excellent play against the hanging pawns using the two files. I expect that most
>>of the top engines should find this move, but the amateurs should find it much
>>harder. How does your engine do?
>>
>>                                         Albert
>>
>>[D]2q2rk1/p1rn1ppp/1p2pn2/8/Q2P4/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/2RR2K1 b - - 0 17
>>
>>17...Rc4! 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Rc8
>>
>>Here is the full game:
>>
>>[Event "Moscow-3teams"]
>>[Site ""]
>>[Date "1973"]
>>[Round "2"]
>>[White "Taimanov Mark E"]
>>[Black "Karpov Anatoly"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[Eco "E55"]
>>[Annotator ""]
>>[Source "MCL"]
>>
>>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 O-O 6.Nf3 d5 7.O-O dxc4
>>8.Bxc4 cxd4 9.exd4 b6 10.Qe2 Bb7 11.Rd1 Nbd7 12.Bd2 Rc8 13.Ba6
>>Bxa6 14.Qxa6 Bxc3 15.bxc3 Rc7 16.Rac1 Qc8 17.Qa4 Rc4 18.Qxa7
>>Qc6 19.Qa3 Rc8 20.h3 h6 21.Rb1 Ra4 22.Qb3 Nd5 23.Rdc1 Rc4 24.Rb2
>>f6 25.Re1 Kf7 26.Qd1 Nf8 27.Rb3 Ng6 28.Qb1 Ra8 29.Re4 Rca4 30.Rb2
>>Nf8 31.Qd3 Rc4 32.Re1 Ra3 33.Qb1 Ng6 34.Rc1 Nxc3 35.Qd3 Ne2+
>>36.Qxe2 Rxc1+ 37.Bxc1 Qxc1+ 38.Kh2 Rxf3 39.gxf3 Nh4 0-1
>>
>>In the last position, white lost on time BTW.
>
>     I think you are overestimating today's chess programs. I
>     would indeed be surprised if there is a program to play
>     1...Rc4 within a time limit of 15-20 minutes. Below the
>     analysis of Wcrafty 19.15 and Shredder 8 UCI, both on P4 1.8:

Then I think you'll be surprised by your own creation. CM9_SKR on an AMD 2500
finds Rc4 in four seconds:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.36	1139		17...Ne4 18.c4 Nd6
0:00	1/3	0.30	1313		17...Qb7 18.c4 Rfc8 19.Qb3
0:00	1/4	0.27	2250		17...Qb7 18.c4 Rfc8 19.Bf4
0:00	1/5	0.54	8207		17...Qb7 18.c4 Qe4 19.Bb4 Rfc8
					20.Bd6
0:00	1/5	0.35	10446		17...Ne4 18.c4 Nd6 19.Bf4 Rxc4
					20.Rxc4 Nxc4 21.Qxa7
0:00	1/6	0.26	22012		17...Ne4 18.c4 Nxd2 19.Rxd2 Nf6
					20.Re2 Rd8
0:00	1/7	0.40	68197		17...Ne4 18.c4 Nxd2 19.Rxd2 Nf6
					20.Ne5 Rd8 21.Qa3
0:01	1/8	0.03	243434		17...Ne4 18.Qb3 Rc4 19.Re1 Ndf6
					20.Qc2 Qb7 21.Ne5 Rcc8
0:02	1/9	0.32	540186		17...Ne4 18.c4 Nxd2 19.Rxd2 Nf6
					20.Qb3 Rd8 21.Re2 Qa6
0:03	1/9	0.25	801814		17...Re8 18.Re1 Rc4 19.Qxa7 Qa8
					20.Qxa8 Rxa8 21.Rc2 Rca4 22.c4 Rxa2
0:04	1/9	0.13	967732		17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb3 Rfa8 21.c4 Rxa2
0:05	1/10	0.01	1249952		17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb3 Rfa8 21.Rc2 Ra3 22.Qb2 R3a5
0:09	1/11	0.08	2238373		17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb3 Rfa8 21.Rc2 Ra3 22.Qb2 Qc4
0:18	1/12	-0.02	4372183		17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb3 Rfa8 21.Rc2 Ra3 22.Qb1 Qc4
					23.Bg5 b5
0:46	1/13	0.04	11708431	17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb2 Rfa8 21.Rc2 h6 22.Re1 b5
					23.Bf4 Nd5
1:53	2/14	-0.02	29405172	17...Rc4 18.Qxa7 Qc6 19.Qa3 Ra4
					20.Qb2 Rfa8 21.Rc2 Ne4 22.Bf4 b5
					23.Qb3 Rc8 24.Bd2

jm



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