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Subject: Re: No refutation at all

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 10:42:20 07/31/04

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On July 31, 2004 at 11:05:55, Rob Basham wrote:

>On July 31, 2004 at 10:55:41, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On July 31, 2004 at 07:24:15, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>[d]3q3r/4b1k1/4P1p1/rpp2p1p/1nn2Q2/5N1P/P4PP1/RBB1R1K1 w
>>>Another GM sac refuted by computers?
>>>
>>>This position is from...
>>>
>>>GM Fischer - GM Leonid Stein
>>>Interzonal, Sousse 1967
>>>
>>>GM Fischer played the (so called) winning move Bxf5! Annotators claim GM Fischer
>>>wins easily after Bxf5! gxf5 Qg3+ Kh7 Ng5+ Bxg5 Bxg5 Qe8(or Qd3).
>>>
>>>For this reason GM Stein played Qf8? and lost...but Bxf5 gxf5! seems to more
>>>then hold the position. Do any computers or humans disagree.
>>
>>Yes, Hiarcs 9 and Drexel 0.815.
>>
>>1. Bxf5 gxf5 2. Qg3+ Kh7 3. Ng5+ Bxg5 4. Bxg5 Ra3 5. Qf4 Qf8 (5... Qe8 6. Qxf5+
>>Qg6 7. Qxc5 Rg8 8. h4) 6. e7 Qf7 7. e8=Q Rxe8 8. Rxe8 Qxe8 9. Qxf5+ *
>>
>>I would always prefer to play this with white.
>>Show me how to win with black with only the h-pawn to be left.
>>
>>True, Bxf5 doesn´t win easily.
>>
>>Btw, even dubious moves are sometimes the "best" moves.
>>After all Tal won a lot of games with rather unsound attacks.
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>>
>>>Example line.
>>>Bxf5 gxf5! Qg3+ Kh7 Ng5+ Bxg5 Bxg5 Ra3!.
>
>Very true; but "dubious moves" do not make good test moves...IHMO
>
>...Bxf5 looks like he goofed here...:-)

No, he didn´t.
White has a draw after Bxf5.
1.Ng5 is worse.

Michael

>Rob



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