Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 22:02:20 07/31/04
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On July 31, 2004 at 23:14:28, Bruce Humphrey wrote:
>On July 31, 2004 at 16:53:46, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>Question:
>>
>>Shredder 8 have 2818 SSDF Elo on AMD 1,2 GHz, right? Yes!
>>
>>Which SSDF-ELO have then Shredder 8 on Dual Xeon 3 GHz?
>>
>>2900? Or more?
>>
>>:-))
>>
>>Eduard
>
>Yes, a 2900 that is blind to the fact that a rook locked in by pawns is worth 0
>(or maybe 1) and not 4.88 at depth 24 (I'm sure during the game my Shredder was
>evaluating 4.6...) as Shredder evaluates in end position in game 1. Well, other
>software gives even bigger advantage to white!
>
>During the game I thought black was going to win the moment Kiriakov plays b5...
>he did mention just the move before "b5 only plan. White can block with Rb5 and
>obvious draw", but Shredder is blind to the fact that yes, it wins 1 pawn but in
>exchange of losing his rooks mobility. The position is really complicated around
>move 82... what pawn does black take, central or h (via Nf2+-Nxh3)? How does
>this affect everything? Well, humans (and even more at 6am local time in
>Krasnoyarsk and with not much time left) tend to have trouble in the
>complications. A wonderful draw by GM Kiriakov. This makes it (as far as I know)
>Shredder 8 vs Kiriakov +0-0=4
>
>I'm counting Smursky's games too... all 4 games vs dual or better machines.
>
>Maybe next one to try should use Tiger or Hiarcs. Or even Gambit Tiger or Junior
>set in Attack mode. I personally would love it to be Rebel 12. :-)
>
>Here is the position tested in various programs... Very curious is the eval
>difference between hiarcs 9 for PC and Hiarcs 9.46 for Palm!!! I thought they
>where almost exactly the same, but obviously, 9.46 has been tweaked a lot (in
>knowledge ?). That, usually, should be for good, but it seems not for this
>position...
>
>comp depth eval
>-------- ----------- ------
>Fritz 8 depth 20/20 4.38
>Ruffian ca71 depth 18 4.67
>Shredder 8 depth 25 4.89
>Rebel 12 depth 20 4.97
>wCrafty 19 ca71 depth 18 5.08
>Gothmog 1 beta7 depth 17 5.40
>Genius 7 depth 17-28 5.51
>Hiarcs 9 depth 16/33 5.99 !!
>Dragon ca71 depth 12 6.02
>Crafty 19.14 cb depth 18/25 6.38
>Junior 8 depth 24 6.39
>Tiger 15 ca71 depth 20 6.52
>Tiger 14 cb depth 17 6.73
>Hiarcs 9.46 depth 15 7.69 !! (353sec taken)
Thank You very much.
You are right. It are nice games !
I have played against Smurskie too (live), in Year 2001.
He played with Deep Fritz on 2x P3 1 GHz, on playchess.com.
The game:
[Event "30m + 0s"]
[Site "playchess.com"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "EduardNemeth"]
[Black "Smurskie, DeepFritz, 2x1Ghz"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B23"]
[WhiteElo ""]
[PlyCount "222"]
[EventDate "2001.??.??"]
1. e4 {6} c5 {0} 2. Nc3 {2} a6 {0} 3. g3 {3} b5 {0} 4. Bg2 {5} Bb7 {0} 5. d3 {1
} e6 {0} 6. Bd2 {3} d5 {46} 7. Nge2 {40} b4 {37} 8. Nb1 {5} Bd6 {33} 9. O-O {15
} Nf6 {63} 10. exd5 {58} Bxd5 {38} 11. Nf4 {108} Bxg2 {43} 12. Nxg2 {8} O-O {76
} 13. Bc1 {27} Nc6 {45} 14. Nd2 {21} Nd4 {37} 15. Nb3 {47} a5 {51} 16. Ne3 {71}
a4 {35} 17. Nxd4 {3} cxd4 {10} 18. Nc4 {2} Qc7 {57} 19. Bg5 {91} Ne4 {60} 20.
Bd2 {255} Nxd2 {40} 21. Qxd2 {16} Rab8 {23} 22. b3 {33} a3 {45} 23. Rae1 {29}
Be7 {36} 24. Qe2 {47} Rb5 {32} 25. Qe4 {121} Bf6 {20} 26. Kg2 {25} Rc8 {20} 27.
Re2 {34} Rd5 {74} 28. Ree1 {47} Qc6 {22} 29. Re2 {7} Rc5 {47} 30. Qxc6 {4}
R5xc6 {6} 31. Rfe1 {4} Kf8 {64} 32. Re4 {6} h5 {33} 33. h3 {10} Ke7 {19} 34.
R4e2 {13} g5 {23} 35. g4 {9} Rh8 {38} 36. Rh1 {3} Rcc8 {32} 37. Ree1 {9} Rh7 {
48} 38. f3 {3} Rch8 {13} 39. Ref1 {20} e5 {24} 40. Re1 {15} Ke6 {20} 41. Ref1 {
2} Be7 {11} 42. Re1 {1} Bd6 {20} 43. Ref1 {57} Rh6 {13} 44. Re1 {3} R8h7 {8}
45. Ref1 {1} Be7 {9} 46. Re1 {1} f6 {7} 47. Ref1 {1} Bc5 {12} 48. Re1 {
EduardNemeth bietet Remis 2} Rh8 {0} 49. Ref1 {1} Bd6 {13} 50. Re1 {1} R8h7 {8}
51. Ref1 {1} Kd5 {11} 52. Re1 {1} Rh8 {19} 53. Ref1 {1} Bc5 {7} 54. Re1 {1} Be7
{12} 55. Ref1 {1} Kc5 {11} 56. Re1 {1} R6h7 {13} 57. Ref1 {1} Kd5 {11} 58. Re1
{1} Bd6 {6} 59. Ref1 {1} Rc7 {21} 60. Re1 {1} Rhh7 {22} 61. Ref1 {3} h4 {5} 62.
Re1 {9} Bc5 {0} 63. Re4 {6} Rc8 {2} 64. Rhe1 {2} Kc6 {6} 65. R1e2 {2} Rhc7 {7}
66. Re1 {0} Re7 {4} 67. R1e2 {1} Kb5 {9} 68. Re1 {1} Rc6 {5} 69. R1e2 {1} Rb7 {
6} 70. Re1 {1} Bd6 {8} 71. R1e2 {1} Rd7 {5} 72. Re1 {2} Kc5 {4} 73. R1e2 {1}
Kd5 {7} 74. Re1 {1} Rdc7 {6} 75. R1e2 {1} Rc8 {4} 76. Re1 {1} Rb8 {3} 77. R1e2
{1} Rg8 {4} 78. Re1 {1} Rg7 {4} 79. R1e2 {1} Kc5 {3} 80. Re1 {1} Bc7 {4} 81.
R1e2 {1} Rg8 {5} 82. Re1 {1} Rc8 {5} 83. R1e2 {1} Bd6 {4} 84. Re1 {1} Ra6 {2}
85. R1e2 {1} Ra7 {EduardNemeth bietet Remis 4} 86. Re1 {3} Kc6 {1} 87. R1e2 {1}
Rac7 {7} 88. Re1 {1} Be7 {4} 89. R1e2 {4} Bf8 {5} 90. Re1 {1} Kb5 {3} 91. R1e2
{1} Rc6 {4} 92. Re1 {1} R8c7 {2} 93. R1e2 {1} Bc5 {4} 94. Re1 {1} Ra6 {4} 95.
R1e2 {1} Rcc6 {2} 96. Re1 {1} Ra8 {3} 97. R1e2 {0} Rac8 {5} 98. Re1 {1} Bd6 {2}
99. R1e2 {1} Ra6 {7} 100. Re1 {1} Kc6 {4} 101. R1e2 {1} Kd5 {3} 102. Re1 {1}
Rf8 {3} 103. R1e2 {2} Rf7 {0} 104. Re1 {1} Rc6 {1} 105. R1e2 {1} Bc7 {2} 106.
Re1 {1} Rf8 {2} 107. R1e2 {1} Bd6 {3} 108. Re1 {1} Rc7 {0} 109. R1e2 {1} Rb8 {1
} 110. Re1 {1} Rb5 {0} 111. R1e2 {1} Rcc5 {2} 1/2-1/2
After move 48, the game was draw, but DF would play 50 move rules! :-)
Best,
Eduard
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