Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:52:54 08/01/04
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On August 01, 2004 at 03:05:58, Uri Blass wrote:
>On August 01, 2004 at 01:31:22, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>
>>On August 01, 2004 at 01:16:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 01, 2004 at 01:09:46, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 31, 2004 at 17:18:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>Movei-Jonny CrazyBishop 36.5-13.5 32.5-17.5 at 1 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny CrazyBishop 34.5-15.5 35-15 at 2 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny CrazyBishop 33.5-16.5 34-16 at 3 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny CrazyBishop 27-23 29-21 at 4 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny Crazybishop 23.5-26.5 27-23 at 10 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny CrazyBishop 23.5-26.5 31.5-18.5 at 20 minutes per game
>>>>>Movei-Jonny 25-25 at 40 minutes per game
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Interesting data. What is the meaning of "CrazyBishop" here?
>>>>Does it mean an opening book?
>>>>
>>>>Ingo Althofer.
>>>
>>>It means that I also tested against crazybishop except 40 minutes per game
>>>
>>>I forgot the words crazy bishop in 2 matches for 3 4 minutes per game(I added
>>>them in this post) but the first result is always against Jonny when the second
>>>result is against crazybishop when there is no second result at 40 minutes for
>>>all the game.
>>>
>>>Nunnmatch was always used with no opening book.
>>
>>Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>>Do you share my impression that relative to Movei
>>Jonny seems to become stronger at longer time controls?
>>
>>Ingo Althofer.
>
>I am not sure and previous results were more convincing to this direction but
>when I used slower time control than 10 minutes per game the results of Jonny
>stopped to improve.
>
>Movei did better than Jonny in the aegt that is in relatively long time
>control(ponder off).
>
>see http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/aegtq.htm
>
>Movei also does well in WBEC 40/40 time control with ponder on inspite of known
>bug in time management with ponder on.
>
>It is possible that the problem of movei in WCCC was combination of the
>following 4 factors:
>
>1)inferior hardware
>2)inferior book
>3)bad time management with ponder on
>4)bad luck.
>
>Uri
I looked at one of the games of AEGT and I really do not understand how movei
could win the game.
It is not the first time that I see it win endgames that I believe to be equal
inspite of the fact that it is outsearched by some plies and I have no special
knowledge about many types of endgames.
Of course there are also cases when it lose drawn endgames or draw won endgame
but the result of it in endgame is clearly better than what I could expect from
the stupid thing.
Based on my limited knowledge of endgames the side with exchange advantage
should trade rooks and this is exactly what Jonny did when movei has no
knowledge to avoid trading rooks when it is an exchange down but for some reason
it did not help Jonny.
[Event "1-122"]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "2004.07.30"]
[Round "1.3"]
[White "Jonny 2.64"]
[Black "Movei 00.8.247s"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B22"]
[PlyCount "156"]
[EventDate "2004.07.30"]
1. e4
{
0
}
1... c5
{
0
}
2. c3
{
0
}
2... Nf6
{
0
}
3. e5
{
0
}
3... Nd5
{
0
}
4. d4
{
0
}
4... cxd4
{
0
}
5. Nf3
{
0
}
5... Nc6
{
0
}
6. Bc4
{
0
}
6... Nb6
{
0
}
7. Bb3
{
0
}
7... d5
{
0
}
8. exd6
{
0
}
8... Qxd6
{
0
}
9. O-O
{
0
}
9... Be6
{
0
}
10. Na3
{
0
}
10... Bxb3
{
-0.08/11 33
}
11. Qxb3
{
0.00/13 26
}
11... dxc3
{
(d3) -0.09/11 28
}
12. Nb5
{
-0.10/13 56
}
12... Qb8
{
-0.10/11 32
}
13. Be3
{
(Sxc3) -0.24/12 41
}
13... cxb2
{
-0.57/12 71
}
14. Rad1
{
(Tab1) -0.02/12 38
}
14... e6
{
(b1D) -0.69/11 35
}
15. Bxb6
{
-0.17/13 101
}
15... axb6
{
-0.85/11 30
}
16. Qxb2
{
-0.25/13 28
}
16... Ra4
{
-0.85/10 21
}
17. Nfd4
{
(Tfe1) 0.00/12 41
}
17... Rb4
{
-0.99/11 50
}
18. Qe2
{
(Dc3) -0.09/12 21
}
18... Be7
{
-0.64/12 102
}
19. a3
{
0.12/13 26
}
19... Ra4
{
(Txd4) 0.09/12 36
}
20. Qc2
{
0.19/14 47
}
20... Rxd4
{
0.10/11 18
}
21. Nxd4
{
0.31/14 28
}
21... O-O
{
(Lc5) 0.09/11 23
}
22. Nxc6
{
(a4) 0.34/14 58
}
22... bxc6
{
0.01/12 35
}
23. Qxc6
{
0.32/16 42
}
23... Bxa3
{
0.12/12 45
}
24. Rd7
{
0.32/15 20
}
24... Bc5
{
-0.01/12 85
}
25. Qc7
{
(Df3) 0.32/14 31
}
25... Qxc7
{
-0.29/12 20
}
26. Rxc7
{
0.31/17 20
}
26... Rd8
{
(Ta8) -0.29/11 30
}
27. Ra1
{
(g3) 0.40/16 21
}
27... g5
{
-0.37/12 32
}
28. g3
{
0.36/16 25
}
28... Rd5
{
-0.34/11 30
}
29. Ra2
{
0.54/15 18
}
29... g4
{
(Kg7) -0.39/11 29
}
30. Kg2
{
(h3) 0.52/15 18
}
30... Rf5
{
(Kg7) -0.47/11 25
}
31. Rb7
{
(Te2) 0.52/16 18
}
31... Kg7
{
-0.53/12 41
}
32. Rd2
{
(Te2) 0.40/15 23
}
32... h5
{
(Tf3) -0.56/12 40
}
33. Rc7
{
0.36/15 16
}
33... e5
{
(Tf3) -0.56/12 85
}
34. Re2
{
(Tc2) 0.26/14 19
}
34... Bd4
{
(Tf3) -0.57/11 31
}
35. Rec2
{
(Ta2) 0.12/15 20
}
35... Rf3
{
-0.55/11 56
}
36. Rb7
{
(Te7) 0.00/15 20
}
36... Bc5
{
(Tb3) -0.58/11 31
}
37. Rb8
{
(Tc7) 0.16/15 22
}
37... e4
{
(Ta3) -0.60/11 45
}
38. Re8
{
(Td8) 0.49/15 18
}
38... f5
{
-0.52/12 38
}
39. Re6
{
(Td2) 0.53/15 15
}
39... Ra3
{
-0.48/13 64
}
40. Rd2
{
0.53/16 18
}
40... Rd3
{
-0.36/13 92
}
41. Ra2
{
0.63/17 38
}
41... Rd7
{
-0.36/11 22
}
42. Kf1
{
(Ta6) 0.69/16 43
}
42... Re7
{
(Tc7) -0.33/12 71
}
43. Rxe7+
{
0.93/18 40
}
43... Bxe7
{
-0.18/14 22
}
44. Ke2
{
(Ta7) 0.93/19 36
}
44... Bd6
{
-0.25/13 51
}
45. Ra6
{
(Ta8) 0.93/20 48
}
45... Bc5
{
-0.20/14 23
}
46. Ra8
{
(Ta7+) 0.93/21 61
}
46... Kf7
{
(Lb4) -0.11/12 23
}
47. Rc8
{
(Kf1) 0.93/20 50
}
47... Bd4
{
(Kf6) 0.00/13 22
}
48. Rc1
{
(Td8) 0.93/19 38
}
48... Bc5
{
(Kf6) -0.33/13 23
}
49. Rd1
{
(Ta1) 0.88/19 39
}
49... Ke7
{
(Ke6) -0.38/13 22
}
50. Rd5
{
0.89/20 55
}
50... Ke6
{
-0.25/14 21
}
51. Rd8
{
0.74/20 59
}
51... b5
{
-0.24/13 26
}
52. Rc8
{
(Th8) 0.74/19 39
}
52... Be7
{
-0.25/13 24
}
53. Rh8
{
0.65/19 85
}
53... b4
{
-0.26/14 33
}
54. Re8
{
(Txh5) 0.58/19 106
}
54... Kf6
{
-0.43/14 57
}
55. Rb8
{
0.59/20 67
}
55... Bc5
{
(Ke6) -0.41/13 29
}
56. Rb5
{
0.59/20 40
}
56... Bf8
{
(Ld6) -0.10/13 20
}
57. Rb6+
{
(Ke3) 0.59/20 22
}
57... Kg7
{
(Kg5) 0.00/14 31
}
58. Rc6
{
0.61/19 28
}
58... Be7
{
-0.33/14 43
}
59. Re6
{
(Ke3) 0.59/19 30
}
59... Kf7
{
0.00/15 22
}
60. Rb6
{
0.59/20 58
}
60... Bf8
{
(Kg7) 0.00/15 28
}
61. Rb7+
{
(Kd2) 0.59/21 33
}
61... Ke6
{
-0.14/14 14
}
62. Rh7
{
(Tb6+) 0.50/20 82
}
62... Be7
{
(h4) -0.28/13 26
}
63. Rxh5
{
0.54/18 25
}
63... b3
{
-0.23/13 25
}
64. Kd2
{
(Th8) 0.33/18 33
}
64... Bb4+
{
-0.35/12 23
}
65. Kc1
{
0.09/17 29
}
65... Bc5
{
(La3+) -0.33/13 48
}
66. Rh6+
{
0.00/18 21
}
66... Kd5
{
-0.30/13 25
}
67. Rh5
{
0.00/18 16
}
67... Ke5
{
(Ke6) -0.89/14 66
}
68. h4
{
(Kb2) -2.62/17 67
}
68... Bxf2
{
-2.70/14 46
}
69. Rh8
{
-2.53/16 62
}
69... Bxg3
{
-3.26/13 50
}
70. h5
{
-2.53/15 16
}
70... Bf4+
{
(e3) -3.42/12 41
}
71. Kb1
{
(Kd1) -3.93/15 56
}
71... Kf6
{
(g3) -4.40/14 65
}
72. Rf8+
{
-3.93/15 24
}
72... Ke6
{
-4.40/13 19
}
73. Ra8
{
(Kb2) -4.17/14 23
}
73... g3
{
-5.34/13 29
}
74. Kb2
{
-5.65/14 35
}
74... Kf7
{
(e3) -5.39/13 123
}
75. Ra7+
{
(Kxb3) -5.60/12 45
}
75... Kg8
{
-7.26/14 102
}
76. Kxb3
{
-7.17/13 11
}
76... g2
{
-8.06/14 40
}
77. Ra1
{
-7.52/15 13
}
77... Be3
{
-7.82/14 158
}
78. Kc2
{
-10.41/14 40
}
78... f4
{-11.28/13 39} 0-1
Uri
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