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Subject: Re: Re the .Moves...... made by Deep Blue..in .1995

Author: Steven J. Brann

Date: 18:10:01 08/01/04

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On August 01, 2004 at 13:44:21, John Merlino wrote:

>On August 01, 2004 at 12:17:21, Rob Basham wrote:
>
>>On August 01, 2004 at 12:00:50, Rob Basham wrote:
>>
>>>[D]2q3k1/1p4pp/3p1b2/pb1Pp3/r5P1/1P1nQN1P/P2N1P2/R1B3K1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Here black plays ....Rxg4+ and wins...
>>>
>>>From a game in 1995...Hiteck vrs Deep Blue
>>>
>>>Novag Scorpio plays RxPch in 85 sec.
>>>
>>>RISC 2500 ...................78 sec. 6 ply
>>>
>>>Super Novag (6 mhz) ..........12 sec....!
>>
>>the moves...
>>1... Rxg4+ {11s} 2. Kh1 {3s} Rf4 {9s} 3. Kg2 {3s} Rxf3
>>{17s} 4. Nxf3 {4s} Nf4+ {8s} 5. Qxf4 {5s} exf4 {1s} 6. Bb2
>>{7s} Bxb2 {4s} 7. Re1 {3s} Qf5 {14s} 8. a4 {16s} Bd7 {6s}
>>9. Ng1 {4s} f3+ {38s} 10. Kh2 {11s} Be5+ {30s} 11. Kh1
>>{23s} Qf4 {11s} 12. Rxe5 {7s} dxe5 {3s} 13. b4 {2s} Bxh3
>>{25s} 14. Nxh3 {3s} Qg4 {6s} 15. Nf4 {5s} exf4 {3s}
>>16. bxa5 {3s} Qg2# {3s} *
>>
>>
>>Shredder 5 plays all the "correct moves"....up to ...9. f3+...etc.
>>
>>Also see if your computer finds....3...Rxf3! ..very nice moves here.
>>
>>Rob
>
>The King finds all of these moves instantly, up until 9...f3+. And that's
>because it finds 9...Bd4, announcing Mate in 11 after 1:20 on a P4-2.4:
>
>[D]6k1/1p1b2pp/3p4/p2P1q2/P4p2/1P5P/1b3PK1/4R1N1 b - - 0 9
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-13.68	996		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4
>0:00	1/4	-13.84	4641		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4 Be5
>0:00	1/5	-14.30	14862		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re7 Bc6
>					12.h4 Bxa4
>0:00	1/6	-14.35	56649		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4 Be5
>					12.Ne2 Bxh3+ 13.Kf2
>0:00	2/7	-14.64	111358		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qg5+ 11.Kh1 Bxh3
>					12.Nxh3 Qg3 13.Nxf4 Qxe1+ 14.Kg2
>					Qd1 15.Kg3 Qxb3
>0:01	2/8	-15.16	407314		9...Qxd5+ 10.Kh2 Bc6 11.f3 Qg5
>					12.Re2 Qg3+ 13.Kh1 Bxf3+ 14.Nxf3
>					Qxf3+ 15.Rg2 Qxh3+ 16.Kg1 Bd4+
>					17.Kf1 Qxb3
>0:02	2/8	-15.92	555015		9...Bd4 10.Kh2 Bxf2 11.Rf1 Bg3+
>					12.Kh1 Qxd5+ 13.Rf3 Qd2 14.Rxg3
>					fxg3
>0:06	2/9	-19.33	1625224		9...Bd4 10.Kh2 Bxf2 11.Kg2 Bxe1
>					12.Kf1 Bg3 13.Nf3 Qd3+ 14.Kg2 Bxh3+
>					15.Kxh3 Qxf3
>0:12	3/10	-21.21	3522639		9...Bd4 10.Kh2 Bxf2 11.Re2 Bg3+
>					12.Kg2 Qxd5+ 13.Nf3 Bc6 14.Rf2
>					Bxf2 15.Kxf2 Qxf3+ 16.Ke1 Qe3+
>					17.Kf1 Qxh3+ 18.Ke1 Qxb3
>0:27	3/11	-21.37	8234904		9...Bd4 10.Kh2 Bxf2 11.Re2 Bg3+
>					12.Kg2 Qxd5+ 13.Nf3 Bc6 14.Rf2
>					Bxf2 15.Kxf2 Qxf3+ 16.Ke1 Qxh3
>					17.Kf2 Qxb3
>1:20	3/12	-Mate11	24965251	9...Bd4 10.b4 f3+ 11.Kh1 Bxf2 12.Rf1
>					Bxg1 13.Kxg1 Qg6+ 14.Kf2 Qg2+ 15.Ke3
>					Qe2+ 16.Kf4 g5+ 17.Kxg5 Qe5+ 18.Kh4
>					Qf4+ 19.Kh5 Be8#
>
>However, further searching and poking about leads me to believe that 9...Bd4
>leads to mate in 9, and 9...f3+ is a mate in 11. So 9...Bd4 is the "optimal"
>move.
>
>Additionally, 10...Qf4+ is an equivalent alternate to 10...Be5+.
>
>jm

CM9K with a custom personality finds Mate11 in 20 seconds and Mate09 in 3:22 on
a 3.0G P4.  Not bad... would have wowed the audience in 1995.


Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-13.65	2662		9...Qxd5+ 10.Kh2 Qxb3 11.Re4
0:00	1/4	-13.54	9121		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4 Bxa4
					12.Rxf4
0:00	1/5	-14.34	19278		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4 Be5
					12.Ne2 Bxh3+ 13.Kf2
0:00	1/6	-14.39	46136		9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qxb3 11.Re4 Be5
					12.Re2 Bxa4
0:00	1/7	-14.79	140233		9...Qxd5+ 10.Kh2 Bd4 11.Re2 Qxb3
					12.Kg2 Bxh3+ 13.Kh2 Bxf2 14.Rxf2
					Qg3+ 15.Kh1 Qxf2 16.Nxh3
0:01	1/8	-15.33	358505		9...Qxd5+ 10.Kh2 Bd4 11.Rf1 Qxb3
					12.Kg2 f3+ 13.Kh2 Bxa4 14.Kg3 Bc6
0:02	1/9	-16.78	975436		9...Qxd5+ 10.Kh2 f3 11.Kh1 Qg5
					12.Nxf3 Bc6 13.Re8+ Kf7 14.Re3
					Bd4 15.Kh2 Qf4+ 16.Kg1 Bxe3
0:04	1/9	-17.91	1418395		9...Bc3 10.Rd1 f3+ 11.Kh1 Qh5 12.Rd3
					Bxh3 13.Nxf3 Bf1+ 14.Nh2 Bxd3 15.f3
					Qxd5
0:11	1/10	-19.26	4221489		9...Bc3 10.Re7 Qg5+ 11.Kh2 Qxe7
					12.Kh1 Qe1 13.b4 Bxb4 14.f3 Bxa4
0:20	1/11	-Mate11	8158717		9...Bc3 10.Re7 Qg5+ 11.Kf3 Qxd5+
					12.Ke2 Bf5 13.f3 Qd2+ 14.Kf1 Bd4
					15.Re8+ Kf7 16.Re2 Qd1+ 17.Re1
					Bxh3+ 18.Nxh3 Qxf3+ 19.Nf2 Qxf2#
0:30	1/12	-Mate11	12710585	9...Bc3 10.Re7 Qg5+ 11.Kf3 Qxd5+
					12.Ke2 Bf5 13.f3 Qd2+ 14.Kf1 Bd4
					15.Re8+ Kf7 16.Re2 Qd1+ 17.Re1
					Bxh3+ 18.Nxh3 Qxf3+ 19.Nf2 Qxf2#
0:53	1/13	-Mate11	23909819	9...Bc3 10.Re7 Qg5+ 11.Kf3 Qxd5+
					12.Ke2 Bf5 13.f3 Qd2+ 14.Kf1 Bd4
					15.Re8+ Kf7 16.Re2 Qd1+ 17.Re1
					Bxh3+ 18.Nxh3 Qxf3+ 19.Nf2 Qxf2#
2:00	2/14	-Mate11	57237919	9...Bc3 10.Re7 Qg5+ 11.Kf3 Qxd5+
					12.Ke2 Bf5 13.f3 Qd2+ 14.Kf1 Bd4
					15.Re8+ Kf7 16.Re2 Qd1+ 17.Re1
					Bxh3+ 18.Nxh3 Qxf3+ 19.Nf2 Qxf2#
2:12	2/14	-Mate10	63675158	9...Qxd5+ 10.f3 Qg5+ 11.Kf1 Bd4
					12.Re8+ Bxe8 13.Ne2 Be3 14.b4 Qh4
					15.Ng3 Qxg3 16.Ke2 Bg6 17.Kd1 Qf2
					18.bxa5 Qd2#
3:22	2/14	-Mate09	98977209	9...Bd4 10.b4 Qxd5+ 11.Kf1 f3 12.bxa5
					Qc4+ 13.Ne2 Qd3 14.h4 Bh3+ 15.Kg1
					Qg6+ 16.Ng3 Qxg3+ 17.Kh1 Qg2#
4:23	3/15	-Mate09	134035117	9...Bd4 10.b4 Qxd5+ 11.Kf1 f3 12.bxa5
					Qc4+ 13.Ne2 Qd3 14.h4 Bh3+ 15.Kg1
					Qg6+ 16.Ng3 Qxg3+ 17.Kh1 Qg2#
10:04	4/16	-Mate09	332872254	9...Bd4 10.b4 Qxd5+ 11.Kf1 f3 12.bxa5
					Qc4+ 13.Ne2 Qd3 14.h4 Bh3+ 15.Kg1
					Qg6+ 16.Ng3 Qxg3+ 17.Kh1 Qg2#

Steve



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