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Subject: Re: Analysis help ...

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:46:10 08/02/04

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On July 30, 2004 at 13:54:15, Jim Monaghan wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I would like some analysis help from the group with those of you with fast
>machines. I've posted 4 positions below in pgn format so you can simply copy and
>paste into your favourite engine. If you go up and down the solution tree you
>might spot a "hole" in the solution. My machine is simply too slow. The
>positions are fairly intricate. Thanks in advance.
>
>This one is a complex attack on the king.
>
>[D]5rk1/p1q1ppb1/3p2p1/3P1bBp/1pr4P/5PN1/PPPQ2P1/1KR4R b - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "0000.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "IQ.1027"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "5rk1/p1q1ppb1/3p2p1/3P1bBp/1pr4P/5PN1/PPPQ2P1/1KR4R b - -"]
>
>1... Bc3 2. Qe2 b3 3. axb3 (3. Nxf5 bxa2+ 4. Ka1 Rb4)
>3... Ra4 4. Nxf5 (4. bxc3 Qxc3 5. bxa4 Qb3+ 6. Ka1 Qxa4+)
>4... Qa5 5. Nxe7+ Kh7 6. bxa4 Rb8 7. Rcf1 Rxb2+ 8. Kc1 Rb1+
>*
>
>Interesting knight sac with the BK blocked in and weak dark squares.
>
>[D]2rq1rk1/pp1bnpbp/4p1p1/3pP1N1/3P2Q1/2PB4/P4PPP/R1B1R1K1 w - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "0000.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "IQ.1031"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "2rq1rk1/pp1bnpbp/4p1p1/3pP1N1/3P2Q1/2PB4/P4PPP/R1B1R1K1 w - -"]
>
>1. Nxh7 Kxh7 2. Qh4+ Kg8 3. Bg5 Re8 4. Re3 Rxc3 5. Rh3 Rxd3
>6. Qh7+ Kf8 7. Bf6 Nf5 8. Qh8+ *
>
>
>Transition to a won pawn ending. Does it work?
>
>[D]r2r4/pp3p2/4bkpp/8/7P/3B1P2/PP4P1/1K1R3R b - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "0000.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "IQ.1149"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "r2r4/pp3p2/4bkpp/8/7P/3B1P2/PP4P1/1K1R3R b - -"]
>
>1... Rxd3 2. Rxd3 Bf5 3. Rhd1 Rd8 4. Kc2 g5 5. hxg5+ Kxg5 6. g3 h5 7. Kc3 Rxd3+
>8. Rxd3 Bxd3 9. Kxd3 f5 10. Ke3 f4+ 11. Kf2 b5  *
>
>Another complex attack on the king.
>
>[D]1rb1r1k1/3n1ppp/p1p1p3/q3P3/7P/2N1Q1R1/PPP3P1/2KR1B2 w - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "0000.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "IQ.1182"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "1rb1r1k1/3n1ppp/p1p1p3/q3P3/7P/2N1Q1R1/PPP3P1/2KR1B2 w - -"]
>
>1. Rxd7 Bxd7 2. Bd3 h6 (2... g6 3. h5) (2... Rxb2 3. Kxb2 Rb8+ 4. Kc1)
>3. Qf4 Kf8 4. Rxg7 Kxg7 5. Qf6+  Kf8 (5... Kg8 6. Qxh6 Re7 7. Qh7+) 6. Bg6 *
>
>The advantages appear way down the tree. The question is whether there a better
>defense for the weaker side along the way in each of these four cases? Are the
>solutions correct and unique? Please puruse the lines and post your results.

Shredder 7.04 UCI on 2.2 GHz Athlon 64 bit:

Analysis from E:\jm.epd
7/30/2004 11:00:25 PM Level: 36000 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Shredder 7.04 UCI

1) Bc3; id "JM-complex
    Searching move: Bg7-c3
    Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): e7-e6
    Not found in: 10:00:00

   illegal command
    2   00:00  1.26   b4b3 a2xb3
    3-  00:00  1.01   b4b3 a2xb3 Rc4xc2 Ng3xf5 Rc2xd2 Rc1xc7 g6xf5
    3   00:00  0.92   b4b3 a2xb3 Rc4d4 Ng3xf5 Rd4xd2 Bg5xd2
    3   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    4   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    5   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    6   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    7   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    8   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
    9   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5
   10   00:00  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5 g6xf5
   11   00:01  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5 g6xf5
   12   00:03  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5 g6xf5 d5xe6 f7xe6
   13   00:07  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5 Bg7c3 b2xc3 e6xf5
   14   00:13  0.96   e7e6 Ng3xf5 Bg7c3 b2xc3 Qc7b8 c3xb4 Rc4xb4+ Qd2xb4
   15-  01:12  0.71   e7e6 Ng3xf5 Rc4d4 Nf5xd4 e6xd5 Qd2xb4 Bg7xd4 Qb4xd4
Qc7xc2+ Kb1xc2 f7f6 Qd4xa7
   15   02:29  0.70   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 g2g4 f5xg4 f3xg4 Rc4xg4 Bg5h6 Bg7xh6
Qd2xh6 Qc7c4 Rh1f1 Rg4xh4 Rf1f2 Qc4xd5 Rc1e1 Rh4e4
   16   07:36  0.91   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 Qd2d3 a7a5 Rh1e1 Qc7c5 Bg5e3 Bg7d4 g2g3
Rf8c8 Qd3d2 a5a4 Be3xd4 Rc4xd4 Qd2h6 Qc5xd5
   17   13:45  0.94   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 Qd2d3 a7a5 Rh1e1 Qc7c5 Bg5e3 Bg7d4 g2g3
Rf8c8 Re1e2 Bd4xe3 Re2xe3 Qc5d4 Qd3xd4
   18   34:52  1.03   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 Rh1f1 Rf8c8 g2g4 f5xg4 f3xg4 Rc4xg4
Qd2f2 f7f5 Qf2d2 Qc7c4 Rc1e1 Qc4d4 Qd2xd4
   19   1:32:23  1.20   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 Qd2d3 a7a5 Rh1e1 Bg7e5 Re1e2 a5a4
Rc1e1 b4b3 c2xb3 a4xb3 Qd3xb3 Rf8b8 Qb3d3 Rc4b4
   20   3:04:09  1.25   e7e6 Ng3xf5 e6xf5 Rh1f1 Rf8c8 g2g4 f5xg4 f3xg4 Rc4xg4
Rf1xf7 Kg8xf7 Qd2f2+ Kf7g8 Kb1a1 Qc7c4 Qf2xa7
   21   8:37:58  1.37   e7e6 Ng3e4 Rf8c8 d5xe6 d6d5 Ne4f6+ Bg7xf6 Bg5xf6 Rc4xc2
Rc1xc2 Qc7xc2+ Qd2xc2 Bf5xc2+ Kb1c1 Bc2f5+ Kc1d2 Rc8c2+ Kd2e3 f7xe6 g2g3
   7/31/2004 9:00:33 AM, Time for this analysis: 10:00:01, Rated time: 10:00:00

2) Nxh7; id "JM-knight
    Searching move: Ng5xh7
    Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): Ng5xh7
    identical moves! Found in: 10:54

   illegal command
    2-  00:00 -1.99   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7
    2   00:00 -1.69   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7
    2+  00:00 -0.52   Qg4h4 Bg7xe5
    2+  00:00  0.12   Qg4h4 Bg7xe5 d4xe5 Rc8xc3
    2   00:00  0.12   Qg4h4 h7h5
    2+  00:00  0.24   Qg4h3 Bg7h6
    2   00:00  0.54   Qg4h3 h7h5
    2   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    3   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    4   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    5   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    6   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    7   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    8   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
    9   00:00  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
   10   00:01  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6
   11   00:01  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5f3
   12   00:03  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5f3 Ne7f5 Bd3xf5 e6xf5
   13   00:05  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5f3 Ne7f5 Bd3xf5 e6xf5 Ra1b1
   14   00:08  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Qg4h5
   15   00:14  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5xe6 Bd7xe6 Qg4g5 h6xg5
   16   00:26  0.62   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5xe6 Bd7xe6 Qg4g5
   17   03:52  0.68   Bc1d2 a7a6 Qg4h3 h7h6 Ng5f3 h6h5 Nf3g5 Ne7f5 Bd3xf5 e6xf5
e5e6 f7xe6 Ng5xe6 Bd7xe6 Re1xe6 Rc8c6 Ra1e1
   18   07:35  0.70   Bc1d2 h7h6 Ng5f3 Ne7f5 Ra1b1 h6h5 Qg4h3 b7b6 Re1c1 Bg7h6
Bd2xh6 Nf5xh6
   18+  10:54  0.71   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rf8e8 Re1e3 Bd7c6
   18+  12:51  1.06   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rf8e8 Re1e3 Bd7c6 Re3h3
Qd8c7 Qh4h7+ Kg8f8 Bg5h6 Bg7xh6 Qh7xh6+ Kf8g8
   18   37:10  2.48   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3e2 Bd7a4 Be2d1 Ba4c2 Qh4f4 Bc2f5 Bd1b3
   19   49:34  2.44   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3f1 Bd7a4 Re1e3 Rc3xe3 f2xe3
   20   1:16:35  2.40   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3f1 Bd7a4 Re1e3 Rc3xe3 f2xe3
   21   2:09:23  2.38   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3f1 Bd7a4 Re1e3 Rc3xe3 f2xe3
   22   4:00:30  2.43   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3f1 Bd7a4 Re1e3 Bf8a3 Ra1e1 Ba3c1 Re3g3 Rc3xg3 Qh4xg3
   23   7:31:35  2.45   Ng5xh7 Kg8xh7 Qg4h4+ Kh7g8 Bc1g5 Rc8xc3 Bg5xe7 Qd8c7
Be7xf8 Bg7xf8 Bd3f1 Bd7a4 Re1e3 Rc3xe3 f2xe3
   7/31/2004 7:00:36 PM, Time for this analysis: 10:00:01, Rated time: 10:10:54

3) Rxd3; id "JM-pawn en
    Searching move: Rd8xd3
    Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): Ra8-c8
    Not found in: 10:00:00

   illegal command
    2-  00:01  0.08   Kf6e5 Rh1e1+ Ke5d4
    2   00:01  0.06   Kf6e5 Rh1e1+ Ke5d4
    2   00:01  0.29   Ra8c8 g2g3
    3   00:01  0.29   Ra8c8 g2g3
    4   00:01  0.29   Ra8c8 g2g3
    4+  00:01  0.30   Be6f5 Bd3xf5 Kf6xf5 g2g4+ Kf5f4 Rh1h3
    4   00:01  0.43   Be6f5 Bd3xf5 Kf6xf5 Rh1e1 Rd8xd1+ Re1xd1 Ra8c8
    5   00:01  0.31   Be6f5 Bd3xf5 Kf6xf5 Rh1e1 Ra8c8 g2g4+ Kf5f4
    5+  00:01  0.32   Rd8d7 Bd3xg6 f7xg6
    5   00:01  0.38   Rd8d7 Bd3e4 Ra8d8 Rd1xd7 Rd8xd7 Rh1c1
    6   00:01  0.34   Rd8d7 Bd3b5 Rd7c7 g2g4 Ra8c8 Rh1e1
    7   00:01  0.37   Rd8d7 Bd3e4 Ra8d8 Rd1xd7 Rd8xd7 g2g3 Kf6e5 Rh1c1
    8   00:02  0.37   Rd8d7 Bd3e4 Ra8d8 Rd1xd7 Rd8xd7 Rh1c1 Kf6e5 g2g3 b7b6
    9   00:02  0.37   Rd8d7 Bd3e4 Ra8d8 Rd1xd7 Rd8xd7 g2g4 b7b6 f3f4
   10   00:02  0.36   Rd8d7 Bd3b5 Rd7d5 Rd1xd5 Be6xd5 Rh1d1 Ra8d8 Bb5c4 Bd5e4+
Kb1c1
   11   00:03  0.33   Rd8d7 Bd3b5 Be6f5+ Kb1a1 Rd7xd1+ Rh1xd1 Ra8c8 g2g4 Bf5e6
Bb5d3 Kf6e5 Rd1e1+ Ke5d6 Bd3e4 b7b6
   11+  00:04  0.34   Rd8xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 Ra8d8 Kb1a1 Rd8xd3 g2g4
   11   00:04  0.34   Rd8xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 Ra8d8 Kb1c2 Rd8c8+ Kc2b3 b7b6
   12   00:05  0.20   Rd8xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 Ra8d8 Kb1c2 Rd8c8+ Kc2b3 Bf5xd3
Rd1xd3 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5 Rd3d7
   12+  00:05  0.21   Rd8d7 Bd3b5 Be6f5+ Kb1a1 Rd7xd1+ Rh1xd1 Ra8c8 g2g4 Bf5e6
Bb5d3 Kf6e5 Rd1e1+ Ke5d6 Ka1b1
   12   00:07  0.34   Rd8d7 b2b3 Ra8d8 Kb1c2 Rd7xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 Rd8c8+
Kc2d2 Bf5xd3 Kd2xd3 Rc8d8+ Kd3c2 Rd8xd1
   13   00:10  0.24   Rd8d7 b2b3 Ra8d8 Kb1c2 Rd7c7+ Kc2b2 Be6f5 Bd3xf5 Kf6xf5
Rd1xd8 Rc7d7 Rd8xd7 Kf5f4
   13+  00:12  0.25   b7b6 g2g3 Ra8c8 Rh1e1 Rd8xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Re1e3
   13   00:17  0.32   b7b6 g2g3 Ra8c8 Rd1d2 Rd8xd3 Rd2xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 h6h5 a2a3
Bf5xd3+ Rd1xd3 Kf6e6 Kb1a2
   13+  00:20  0.33   Ra8c8 b2b3
   13   00:24  0.42   Ra8c8 Rh1e1 a7a5 Bd3e4 b7b5 g2g3 b5b4 f3f4 h6h5 Kb1a1
Rd8xd1+ Re1xd1 a5a4 Ka1b1 Be6f5
   14   00:30  0.33   Ra8c8 g2g3 a7a5 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Kf6e7 Be4b7 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1
Rc8c7 Bb7a6 f7f5 Ba6e2 Be6b3 Rd1d2
   15   00:47  0.32   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b5 g2g3 b5b4 Rd1xd8 Rc8xd8 Rh1c1 Rd8d2 Rc1c7
Rd2g2 Rc7xa7 Rg2xg3 Be4c6
   16   01:20  0.30   Ra8c8 g2g3 b7b6 Bd3e4 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
a2a3 Rc8h8 Kb1c2 Rh8h3 Rd1g1 Rh3h2+ Kc2c3 Be6c4
   17   02:25  0.35   Ra8c8 g2g3 Rd8xd3 Rd1xd3 Be6f5 Rh1d1 Rc8c7 a2a3 Bf5xd3+
Rd1xd3 Kf6e5 Rd3d8 a7a5 Rd8a8 b7b6
   18   04:16  0.34   Ra8c8 g2g3 b7b6 Bd3e4 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
a2a3 Rc8h8 Kb1c2 Rh8h3 g3g4 Kf6e5 Rd1e1
   19   07:17  0.31   Ra8c8 g2g3 b7b6 Bd3e4 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
a2a3 Rc8h8 Kb1c2 Rh8h3 g3g4 Kf6e5 Rd1e1
   20   25:29  0.37   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
Rd1e1 a7a5 Be4d3 Rc8c5 Re1xe6+ f7xe6 b2b4 a5xb4 a3xb4 Rc5c3 Bd3f5
   21   40:56  0.35   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
Rd1e1 a7a5 Be4d3 Rc8c5 g2g3 a5a4
   22   1:22:00  0.37   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
Rd1e1 a7a5 Be4d3 Rc8c5 g2g3 Rc5e5 Bd3e4 Be6f5 Kb1c2 g5g4 Kc2d2
   23   2:23:44  0.34   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
Rd1e1 a7a5 Re1e2 Rc8c5 g2g3 Kf6e5 Be4c2+ Ke5d6 Re2d2+ Rc5d5 Bc2d3 f7f6 Kb1c2
   24   6:07:59  0.33   Ra8c8 Bd3e4 b7b6 a2a3 Rd8xd1+ Rh1xd1 g6g5 h4xg5+ h6xg5
Rd1e1 a7a5 Re1e3 Rc8h8 Be4d3 Rh8h2 Re3e2 g5g4 Kb1c2 g4xf3 g2xf3 Rh2xe2+ Bd3xe2
Kf6e5
   8/1/2004 5:00:38 AM, Time for this analysis: 10:00:01, Rated time: 20:10:54

4) Rxd7; id "JM-complex
    Searching move: Rd1xd7
    Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): Rd1-e1
    Not found in: 10:00:00

   illegal command
    2   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    3   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    4   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    5   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    6   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    7   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    8   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
    9   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   10   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   11   00:00  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   12   00:01  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   13   00:04  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   14   00:08  0.51   a2a3 Re8f8
   15   02:24  0.40   a2a3 Re8f8 Qe3g5 g7g6 h4h5 Qa5xe5 Bf1xa6 Bc8xa6 Rd1xd7
Qe5e1+ Rd7d1 Rb8xb2
   16   05:02  0.52   a2a3 Re8f8 Rd1e1 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Rb8xb6 Nc3a4 Rb6b8 Rg3d3
Rb8b5 Rd3xd7 Bc8xd7 Bf1xb5 c6xb5 Na4c5 Bd7c6 g2g4
   17   12:55  0.57   a2a3 Kg8f8 Rd1e1 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Rb8xb6 Bf1d3 h7h6 Rg3f3
Kf8e7 Bd3c4 a6a5 Rf3d3 Nd7c5
   18   29:18  0.60   a2a3 Kg8f8 Rd1e1 Qa5b6 Qe3xb6 Rb8xb6 Bf1d3 h7h6 Bd3c4
Rb6b8 Rg3d3 c6c5 Nc3a4 a6a5 Rd3d6
   19   1:13:33  0.75   a2a3 Qa5xe5 Bf1xa6 Qe5xe3+ Rg3xe3 Nd7f6 Ba6xc8 Rb8xc8
a3a4 Nf6g4 Re3e2 f7f5 a4a5 Rc8a8 b2b4 Ra8b8 Nc3a2 Kg8f7
   20   2:26:15  0.77   a2a3 Qa5xe5 Bf1xa6 Qe5xe3+ Rg3xe3 Nd7f6 Ba6xc8 Re8xc8
Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Re3xe4 Kg8f8 b2b3 c6c5 Rd1d7 Kf8e8 Rd7a7
   21   5:38:27  0.77   a2a3 Qa5xe5 Bf1xa6 Qe5xe3+ Rg3xe3 Nd7f6 Ba6e2 Kg8f8
Be2f3 Nf6d5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Re3c3 Re8e6 Rc3c5 Bc8a6 Bf3g4 Re6f6
   21+  7:40:29  0.78   Rd1e1 c6c5 Bf1d3 Nd7f8 Qe3g5 g7g6 Re1f1 Qa5b6 Nc3d1
   8/1/2004 3:00:41 PM, Time for this analysis: 10:00:01, Rated time: 30:10:54

1 of 4 matching moves
8/1/2004 3:00:42 PM, Total time: 4:00:17 PM
Rated time: 30:10:54 = 108654 Seconds



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