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Subject: Re: Shredder didn´t participate on the next worldchampionchip

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 11:31:48 08/02/04

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On August 02, 2004 at 11:14:11, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On August 02, 2004 at 11:00:01, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:34:23, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:03:23, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>In a match of the best programs against three of the best players of the world
>>>>Shredder did not participate in this interesting challenge.It is obviosly the
>>>>same old story of money.
>>>>
>>>>What a pitty, the best program of the world would fit in the team best of
>>>>computers.
>>>>
>>>>Please see
>>>>www.ajedrezbilbao.com
>>>>
>>>>TL
>>>
>>>Thanks for the news, Thomas ;-)
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?379472
>>>http://chessbase.com/espanola/newsdetail2.asp?id=3048
>>>http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/FestivalEN.htm
>>>
>>>Junior is current world champion!
>>>Fritz as synonym for a computer chess program has a wildcard ;-)
>>>Isn't there a playoff between Hydra and Shredder?
>>>
>>>Gerd
>>
>>
>>I don't agree. Of the 6 participants, Junior is the only one that makes clear
>>sense as it is the reigning World Champion. However, Hydra has won one
>>tournament, and isn't even doing that amazingly on the Playchess server, if
>>that's a reference. And much as I admire Fritz, it loses to Shredder in both the
>>SSDF rating lists and the WC titles. The human players are the same. I have the
>>utmost respect for them, and look forward to the games, but to claim they are
>>the absolute best humanity has to offer is ridiculous, barring Topalov, but
>>especially Karjakin. Either they should be the best human players period, or the
>>best players against computers. Still, what is meant is that without clearer
>>reasons for the players selected, or some form of qualifying process, it is
>>impossible to claim a World Championship in which *many* other candidates could
>>easily come ahead if they were allowed a chance to participate. It is a purely
>>invitational event with a fancy but meaningless title.
>>
>>                                       Albert
>
>
>Yes, i was a bit ironic about the event.
>
>I wonder whether there is still no comment or confirmation on chessbase.com or
>icga-site. I mean a Human verus Computer World Championship (what discipline?)
>is a rather strong title for some "arbitrary" choosen players and programs.
>Specially if supported by the ICGA.

World Computer Chess Championship is the official ICGA world championship, and
the top three were:

1. Junior
2. Shredder
3. Diep

It is especially interesting to see Hydra there, which didn't even participate
in the ICGA world championship...


>
>Gerd



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