Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 13:34:53 08/02/04
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On August 02, 2004 at 14:31:48, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On August 02, 2004 at 11:14:11, Gerd Isenberg wrote: > >>On August 02, 2004 at 11:00:01, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:34:23, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >>> >>>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:03:23, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >>>> >>>>>In a match of the best programs against three of the best players of the world >>>>>Shredder did not participate in this interesting challenge.It is obviosly the >>>>>same old story of money. >>>>> >>>>>What a pitty, the best program of the world would fit in the team best of >>>>>computers. >>>>> >>>>>Please see >>>>>www.ajedrezbilbao.com >>>>> >>>>>TL >>>> >>>>Thanks for the news, Thomas ;-) >>>> >>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?379472 >>>>http://chessbase.com/espanola/newsdetail2.asp?id=3048 >>>>http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/FestivalEN.htm >>>> >>>>Junior is current world champion! >>>>Fritz as synonym for a computer chess program has a wildcard ;-) >>>>Isn't there a playoff between Hydra and Shredder? >>>> >>>>Gerd >>> >>> >>>I don't agree. Of the 6 participants, Junior is the only one that makes clear >>>sense as it is the reigning World Champion. However, Hydra has won one >>>tournament, and isn't even doing that amazingly on the Playchess server, if >>>that's a reference. And much as I admire Fritz, it loses to Shredder in both the >>>SSDF rating lists and the WC titles. The human players are the same. I have the >>>utmost respect for them, and look forward to the games, but to claim they are >>>the absolute best humanity has to offer is ridiculous, barring Topalov, but >>>especially Karjakin. Either they should be the best human players period, or the >>>best players against computers. Still, what is meant is that without clearer >>>reasons for the players selected, or some form of qualifying process, it is >>>impossible to claim a World Championship in which *many* other candidates could >>>easily come ahead if they were allowed a chance to participate. It is a purely >>>invitational event with a fancy but meaningless title. >>> >>> Albert >> >> >>Yes, i was a bit ironic about the event. >> >>I wonder whether there is still no comment or confirmation on chessbase.com or >>icga-site. I mean a Human verus Computer World Championship (what discipline?) >>is a rather strong title for some "arbitrary" choosen players and programs. >>Specially if supported by the ICGA. > >World Computer Chess Championship is the official ICGA world championship, and >the top three were: > >1. Junior >2. Shredder >3. Diep > >It is especially interesting to see Hydra there, which didn't even participate >in the ICGA world championship... Yes, i would like to see these programs playing. Probably due to sponsor and other financial interests, the intersection of the three solvent top commercials from chessbase and pal group with the top three from WCCC seems to be Junior. > > >> >>Gerd
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