Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 17:51:56 08/02/04
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On August 02, 2004 at 16:06:32, Tony Werten wrote: >On August 02, 2004 at 14:31:48, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On August 02, 2004 at 11:14:11, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >> >>>On August 02, 2004 at 11:00:01, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:34:23, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 02, 2004 at 10:03:23, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In a match of the best programs against three of the best players of the world >>>>>>Shredder did not participate in this interesting challenge.It is obviosly the >>>>>>same old story of money. >>>>>> >>>>>>What a pitty, the best program of the world would fit in the team best of >>>>>>computers. >>>>>> >>>>>>Please see >>>>>>www.ajedrezbilbao.com >>>>>> >>>>>>TL >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the news, Thomas ;-) >>>>> >>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?379472 >>>>>http://chessbase.com/espanola/newsdetail2.asp?id=3048 >>>>>http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/FestivalEN.htm >>>>> >>>>>Junior is current world champion! >>>>>Fritz as synonym for a computer chess program has a wildcard ;-) >>>>>Isn't there a playoff between Hydra and Shredder? >>>>> >>>>>Gerd >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't agree. Of the 6 participants, Junior is the only one that makes clear >>>>sense as it is the reigning World Champion. However, Hydra has won one >>>>tournament, and isn't even doing that amazingly on the Playchess server, if >>>>that's a reference. And much as I admire Fritz, it loses to Shredder in both the >>>>SSDF rating lists and the WC titles. The human players are the same. I have the >>>>utmost respect for them, and look forward to the games, but to claim they are >>>>the absolute best humanity has to offer is ridiculous, barring Topalov, but >>>>especially Karjakin. Either they should be the best human players period, or the >>>>best players against computers. Still, what is meant is that without clearer >>>>reasons for the players selected, or some form of qualifying process, it is >>>>impossible to claim a World Championship in which *many* other candidates could >>>>easily come ahead if they were allowed a chance to participate. It is a purely >>>>invitational event with a fancy but meaningless title. >>>> >>>> Albert >>> >>> >>>Yes, i was a bit ironic about the event. >>> >>>I wonder whether there is still no comment or confirmation on chessbase.com or >>>icga-site. I mean a Human verus Computer World Championship (what discipline?) >>>is a rather strong title for some "arbitrary" choosen players and programs. >>>Specially if supported by the ICGA. >> >>World Computer Chess Championship is the official ICGA world championship, and >>the top three were: >> >>1. Junior >>2. Shredder >>3. Diep >> >>It is especially interesting to see Hydra there, which didn't even participate >>in the ICGA world championship... > >We could ask ICGA to clarify, since their logo is also on the website. We can >also just conclude they got money for it. Don't think there is much difference. > >It would be interesting to hear wether Vincent or Stefan were asked to >participate and if they had to bring money. > >Tony I have not been asked anything. To ICGA i have shipped next and i look forward to answer : --------------------------------- Good evening, Please visit: http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/FestivalEN.htm The homepage seems to suggest that the ICGA recognizes this world championship human-computers. Is that the case? Could you explain why? Vincent Diepeveen Acacialaan 1 3901 XC Veenendaal My lawyer in this are : Mr. T. van Kooten Grefnigt & Van Kippersluis Biltstraat 97 Postbus 13006 3507 LA Utrecht The Netherlands I received from the vice-president next so far : Vincent, Thank you for the URL: as you cc David Levy, I'll leave the explanation to him. I referred an enquiry about 'ICGA Endorsement' two weeks ago: maybe this was the event anticipated. I have no use for your lawyer's details and wonder why you bothered to include them. Regards - Guy
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