Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 03:25:45 08/03/04
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On August 03, 2004 at 06:07:18, Ingo Bauer wrote: >2. Why did the programmer choose a style that is not working (I would call that >a bad beta testing!) a programmer is a human beeing. there are no gods producing stonehenge kind of monuments that we watch like a seventh world wonder for the next 10000 years. programmers test their engines. and depending on HOW they test you will be able to reproduce their results, or not. >It never ends this way. of course it ends. it is possible to find a best style. only it is very difficult and takes time. and things do not get better when programmers change this and that and this little thing here and there while you try to find out. >In this case yes, the programmer is god. you are mistaken. neither christophe theron nor ed schroeder or other programmers are god. we are all human beeings. >He choosed the setting because usually >he thinks these are the best overall settings! yes. i know. a god does not need to think. he KNOWS. so a programmer is no god. and if we continue believing that programmers are godlike creatures IMO we waste much time. of course you FIRST test a program in the default style. but i would say after 30 or 60 games (10 or 20 each against S8, F8 and H9) you can stop. there is no need for 490 or 500 more games with this godlike chosen style. >so I prefer the "out of the box settings" over any >particular setting. Or use at least one setting against ALL opponents (eg. the >chessmaster setting - thats why I asked for your best setting) you only try the OUT OF THE BOX settings as long as you do not have find out that they do not work. for Chessmaster e.g. people have found out that the OUT OF BOX settings by programmer God Johann de Koning are not the best, so they use different settings. why not ? why using a style that gets weaker results. masochism ? >What you are doing is to say that the default setting is not nessesarily the >best setting yes. because programmers are human beeings. like us. >but you test against a "possibly bad setting" of other engines. >Should'nt they be "improved" against your special settings? this can be done by people who like to tune THOSE programs. i do not tune fritz or shredder. i misuse those programs as opponents. i don't care if stronger settings exist :-)) it would be too boring to watch those programs play more then i do it now. > This seems to be a >bit unbalanced! :-) thats life. unbalanced :-)) >PS: It seems the default settings are the best overall setting we have right >now! aha. ok- lets wait a few weeks and we can talk again. i am especially interested in the S8 results of pro deo.
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