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Subject: Re: Answer from Levy

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 11:32:37 08/04/04

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On August 04, 2004 at 09:16:53, Tony Werten wrote:

>On August 04, 2004 at 08:43:30, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On August 04, 2004 at 05:51:55, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On August 04, 2004 at 04:07:10, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 04, 2004 at 02:15:14, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 03, 2004 at 15:41:17, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 03, 2004 at 12:29:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On August 02, 2004 at 20:51:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: wereldkampioenschap ICGA - 3 deelnemers?
>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:55:04 +0100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Vincent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you for pointing this out to us. In fact the official title of the
>>>>>>>event is "Man vs Machine World Chess Team Championship". I agreed this title
>>>>>>>with the Bilbao organisers when I visited them last year to discuss the
>>>>>>>event and I confirmed it to them in writing on September 15th 2003.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2004 is the first year for the team event and, if it is a publicity success,
>>>>>>>it is expected to grow from year to year, with the teams on each side
>>>>>>>becoming larger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have pointed out the error to the people in Bilbao and have asked them to
>>>>>>>insert the word "Team". I have explained to them that the ICGA has already
>>>>>>>designated Kasparov vs Deep Junior and Kasparov vs Deep Fritz as individual
>>>>>>>world championships for man vs machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David Levy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is fine if the IGCA, namely David Levy tries to establish some (hu)man versus
>>>>>>computer matches. But IMHO the title "World Championship" deserves qualified but
>>>>>>not arbitrary choosen participants by commercial interests, at least for the
>>>>>>programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seems, as they made the contract, Brutus/Hydra was still chessbase.
>>>>>>So the chessbase team excluding Shredder is now a chessbase/pal-group team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What about an "ICGA Author vs Machine World Chess Team Championship"?
>>>>>>Diepeveen/Zwanzger/Mayer-Kahlen against (or with) Jonny/Shredder/Diep ;-)
>>>>>>(not playing against own programs?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gerd
>>>>>
>>>>>Good suggestion there Gerd !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No it was not good - the whole issue is too serious
>>>>to make sarcastic jokes about, sorry for that.
>>>
>>>Yes Gerd, you should be ashamed.
>>
>>I am ;-(
>>
>>>
>>>How about a "ICGA WORLD programs beginning with the letter X CHAMPIONSHIP" ?
>>>
>>
>>Sponsored by X3D!
>>XiniX and XXXX even start and end with X.
>>Xenarbor, X Tempo, Xie Long...
>>Favorite is X3D-fritz!
>
>Hmmm :(
>
>"ICGA WORLD programs beginning and ending with the letter X and programmed in
>Delphi CHAMPIONSHIP" ?
>
>Tony
>
>>
>>Gerd
>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Gerd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would like to see the authors of strong programs (preferably the winners of
>>>>>WCCC :) ) play against their own programs ! - Note : no last minute dumbing down
>>>>>of programs allowed ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>If nothing , it might tell us humans how to combat their programs :( - too tough
>>>>>to beat most of them ... even with book and egtb and pondering disabled and at
>>>>>timeodds :(
>>>>>
>>>>>Mridul

Or, we could have all engines where the scrabble value of their first letter is
>= 8 (its been a while, but I think X, Q, and Z).

anthony



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