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Subject: Re: in some cases humans are much better in tactics than computers

Author: Ingo Bauer

Date: 12:34:56 08/07/04

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On August 07, 2004 at 14:00:02, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>On August 07, 2004 at 12:12:57, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>
>>On August 07, 2004 at 08:51:51, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>
>>>[D]3r2rk/3n1pp1/2p1b2p/3q3P/pp1PNQ2/2P2P2/PP6/KB4RR w - - 0 29
>>>
>>>In this speedchessgame in round two of the fide-wcc 2004 the IM Neelotpal
>>>(2457)found with 29.Rg1-g6 !! with the thread to sacrifice the rook on h6 the
>>>strongest move to show that white is not(!) worse in this position.
>>>
>>>I bet that every computer of the world wouldn´t have found this in a compareable
>>>time.
>>
>>If SMK would compile his S8 with a value of 55 or lower as default you would
>>lose that bet!
>>Depending on what you consider comparable the value might be a bit higher or
>>lower.
>>
>>Considering the human player as better because he find it in "normal" style is
>>not valid because he might not find 99% of all the other tactical positions that
>>Shredder will find in "normal" style.
>>
>>Bye
>>Ingo Bauer
>>
>>PS: Of course this would be right for many other engines!
>
>My bet was more a question to the community as a real bet.

I know that it was retoric ... as my reply was.

>As you know i love Shredder, because it is unbelievable what this chessprogram
>is able to do. i hope SMK will be the first with his prograam which beat the
>strongest player of the world in a serious match. No one deserves this more than
>SMK.

Even if I agree with you here (considering his "handicaps" because not beeing at
the right stable at the right time) I fear this will NOT happen.

Ingo



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