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Subject: Re: SEE results

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:32:57 08/10/04

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On August 10, 2004 at 12:52:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 10, 2004 at 10:59:29, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2004 at 10:35:29, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>Plus, if you have only PST eval you should be getting 3-4M nps, so SEE probably
>>>slows you down a _lot_.
>>
>>Yet another proof of how bad my programming skills are.  With PST eval and
>>nothing
>>else, I get about 800,000 nps (on a PIV 2.4 GHz).  Adding SEE slowed me down to
>>around 750,000 nps.
>>
>>Tord
>
>
>SEE slowed me down by 10%.  Move ordering improved to speed me up 10%.
  Washed
>out to no advantage, _until_ I added the stuff about tossing out captures that
>can't bring the score back to within the alpha/beta window.

I doubt if you can give one number for speed improvement thanks to better order
of moves.

I think that the improvement can be bigger at longer time control.



  That made me about
>2x faster overall, which is a _big_ gain.


2xfaster overall only thanks to pruning?

It seems to me too much advantage for SEE.

Note that even without SEE you can prune in the qsearch captures that cannot
bring the score to alpha/beta window and if you are  queen down relative to
alpha then it is clear that capture of a rook will not bring the score back to
alpha even without SEE so if the first version did not use that pruning you have
not fair comparison.

Uri



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