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Subject: Re: Pro Deo FAQ

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 03:34:34 08/11/04

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On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote:

>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues.
>
>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster,
>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time
>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you
>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may
>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the
>game.
>
>....
>
>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as
>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL.
>
>    [Pruning = MISC_78]
>
>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls,
>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG
>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one.
>
>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm
>
>Ed

Hi Ed,

the problems we have with Arena Support:

01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good
feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't
need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I
know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in
a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must
make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-(

In German I say:
EIN ALPTRAUM!
Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung!

02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena
tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney
will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our
interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger
changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for
other programs which works fine.

It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The
compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all
compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's
Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time.

Best
Frank

PS:
More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons
which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good
engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users
have more fun with an engine!

PS2:
After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the
engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the
time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and
it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine
with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration
chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team
it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and
adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't
need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by
Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages).

In the year 2004 we don't need such pages / converter / adapter!
All this have not to do with your effort around computer chess since many years.
Look in Arena Ratinglist (ATL League). Rebel is working fine and won the latest
group 1 in front of Shredder and the others. This is fantastic Ed and we all
like Rebel, I too.



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