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Subject: Re: Pro Deo FAQ

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 04:20:12 08/11/04

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On August 11, 2004 at 06:34:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues.
>>
>>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster,
>>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time
>>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you
>>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may
>>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the
>>game.
>>
>>....
>>
>>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as
>>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL.
>>
>>    [Pruning = MISC_78]
>>
>>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls,
>>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG
>>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one.
>>
>>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm
>>
>>Ed
>
>Hi Ed,
>
>the problems we have with Arena Support:
>
>01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good
>feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't
>need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I
>know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in
>a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must
>make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-(
>
>In German I say:
>EIN ALPTRAUM!
>Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung!
>
>02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena
>tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney
>will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our
>interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger
>changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for
>other programs which works fine.
>It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The
>compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all
>compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's
>Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time.
>
>Best
>Frank
>
>PS:
>More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons
>which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good
>engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users
>have more fun with an engine!
>
>PS2:
>After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the
>engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the
>time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and
>it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine
>with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration
>chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team
>it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and
>adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't
>need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by
>Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages).

Okay then, I will make sure that in the next version Pro Deo will refuse to run
under Arena. My advantage: I don't have to listen to your ramblings anymore,
your advantage no more support emails. Everybody happy.

My best,

Ed



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