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Subject: Re: Pro Deo FAQ

Author: José Carlos

Date: 06:33:21 08/11/04

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On August 11, 2004 at 07:20:12, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On August 11, 2004 at 06:34:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues.
>>>
>>>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster,
>>>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time
>>>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you
>>>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may
>>>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the
>>>game.
>>>
>>>....
>>>
>>>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as
>>>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL.
>>>
>>>    [Pruning = MISC_78]
>>>
>>>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls,
>>>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG
>>>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one.
>>>
>>>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>Hi Ed,
>>
>>the problems we have with Arena Support:
>>
>>01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good
>>feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't
>>need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I
>>know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in
>>a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must
>>make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-(
>>
>>In German I say:
>>EIN ALPTRAUM!
>>Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung!
>>
>>02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena
>>tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney
>>will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our
>>interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger
>>changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for
>>other programs which works fine.
>>It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The
>>compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all
>>compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's
>>Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>>
>>PS:
>>More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons
>>which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good
>>engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users
>>have more fun with an engine!
>>
>>PS2:
>>After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the
>>engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the
>>time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and
>>it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine
>>with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration
>>chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team
>>it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and
>>adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't
>>need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by
>>Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages).
>
>Okay then, I will make sure that in the next version Pro Deo will refuse to run
>under Arena. My advantage: I don't have to listen to your ramblings anymore,
>your advantage no more support emails. Everybody happy.
>
>My best,
>
>Ed

  Hi Ed, Pro Deo is working fine under Arena here, using the UCI version.
Please, don't help Frank making us users life more difficult. Most of us
appreciate your program and you very much. Thanks for Pro Deo, for Rebel, for
your chess programming page and for everything.

  José C.



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