Author: Uri Blass
Date: 16:10:52 08/11/04
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On August 11, 2004 at 18:11:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>[Event "Arena tournament"]
>[Site "S0025128408"]
>[Date "2004.08.11"]
>[Round "4"]
>[White "Gothmog_10-b10"]
>[Black "Movei00_8_251s"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "E12/32"]
>[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
>[Time "20:54:26"]
>[Variation "Petrosian System Transposed"]
>[TimeControl "1800+0"]
>[Termination "normal"]
>[PlyCount "227"]
>[WhiteType "program"]
>[BlackType "program"]
>
>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 exd5 7.g3 c5 8.Bg2 Be7 9.O-O
>O-O 10.Bf4 Na6 11.Ne5 Nc7 12.dxc5 bxc5 13.Nc4 Rb8 {0.00/11 21} 14.Bxc7 Qxc7
>{+0.24/12 19} 15.Nxd5 Bxd5 {0.00/12 22} 16.Bxd5 {-0.25/16 64} Rbd8 {+0.12/12 33}
>17.e4
>{-0.32/15 53} Nxe4 {+0.07/11 13} 18.Ne3 {-0.16/14 90} Qe5 {+0.47/10 13} 19.Qe1
>{-0.32/13
>61} Rxd5 {+0.35/11 50} 20.Nxd5 {-0.29/15 39} Qxd5 {+0.39/12 18} 21.f3 {-0.32/14
>30}
>Nxg3 {+0.26/11 51} 22.hxg3 {-0.04/13 34} Bf6 {+0.15/10 15} 23.Rb1 {+0.06/12 45}
>Bd4+
>{+0.07/9 26} 24.Kg2 {+0.03/12 31} Qa2 {-0.26/10 66} 25.Qe4 {+0.21/12 30} Rb8
>{-0.33/11
>42} 26.Rfe1 {+0.46/12 53} g6 {-0.26/10 148} 27.Re2 {+0.28/11 34} a5 {-0.34/9 18}
>28.g4 {+0.37/11 57} a4 {-0.34/9 12} 29.g5 {+0.37/11 41} Qb3 {-0.23/9 18} 30.Rbe1
>{+0.43/11 37} Qa2 {-0.01/9 12} 31.b4 {+0.40/12 44} Qxa3 {+0.10/10 8} 32.Qh4
>{+0.71/12 49}
>Rf8 {-0.38/10 19} 33.bxc5 {0.00/13 56} Qxc5 {-0.38/10 12} 34.Rh1 {+0.09/11 32}
>Ra8
>{-0.16/9 15} 35.Qxh7+ {+0.18/10 37} Kf8 36.Qh6+ {+0.09/10 19} Bg7 {+0.27/11 7}
>37.Qh4
>{0.00/12 29} a3 {+0.13/10 10} 38.Rhe1 {0.00/11 21} a2 {+0.02/10 21} 39.Qa4
>{+0.15/13 35}
>Qxg5+ {+0.03/10 21} 40.Kh3 {+0.15/13 35} Qf5+ {+0.04/10 26} 41.Kg2 {+0.12/13 19}
>Qc8
>{+0.03/10 18} 42.R2e8+ {+0.09/12 15} Qxe8 43.Rxe8+ {+0.09/13 23} Rxe8 44.Qxa2
>{+0.09/13
>52} Be5 {+0.02/9 20} 45.Qa3+ {+0.09/12 18} Kg7 {+0.02/11 24} 46.f4 {+0.09/14 38}
>Bf6 {+0.05/10 24} 47.Qd3 {+0.09/12 12} Rd8 {+0.03/9 12} 48.Qb5 {+0.21/13 19} Rd6
>{+0.03/9 14} 49.Kf3 {+0.18/13 23} Rd2 {0.00/10 59} 50.Qa5 {+0.43/3 29} Rd3+
>{+0.02/9 61}
>51.Ke4 {+0.25/5 17} Rd6 {+0.02/9 10} 52.Qc7 {+0.21/5 20} Re6+ {+0.07/9 7} 53.Kd5
>{+0.21/7 18} Be7 {+0.47/10 17} 54.Qc3+ {+0.06/5 23} Rf6 {+0.61/10 8} 55.Qe3
>{0.00/5 9}
>Bb4 {+0.51/9 8} 56.Qf3 {+0.37/3 15} Bd2 {+1.38/10 71} 57.Qd3 {-0.85/4 21} Bxf4
>{+1.48/10 13} 58.Ke4 {-0.72/5 7} g5 {+1.45/10 13} 59.Kf3 {-0.63/5 14} Rd6
>{+1.40/9 18}
>60.Qb5 {-0.79/6 13} Re6 {+1.47/9 15} 61.Kg4 {-0.82/9 7} Re5 {+1.37/9 26} 62.Qd7
>{-0.85/13 6} Re4 {+1.32/9 16} 63.Kf5 {-0.63/12 7} Re2 {+1.38/9 5} 64.Kg4
>{-0.66/12 17}
>Re5 {+1.32/9 12} 65.Kh5 {-0.63/12 8} Re4 {+1.24/9 8} 66.Qd5 {-0.63/13 16} Re7
>{+1.25/9 8} 67.Qf5 {-0.63/12 8} Re2 {+1.31/9 11} 68.Qc5 {-0.54/12 10} Rh2+
>{+1.28/8 5}
>69.Kg4 {-0.60/2} Rg2+ {+1.27/9 12} 70.Kh5 {-0.63/13 5} Rd2 {+1.24/9 10} 71.Qb6
>{-0.63/11 6} Rh2+ {+1.25/8 5} 72.Kg4 {-0.60/2} Re2 {+1.24/8 4} 73.Kh5 {-0.63/11
>4} Re7
>{+1.20/9 18} 74.Qh6+ {-0.60/13 8} Kg8 75.Qf6 {-0.60/14 7} Rd7 {+1.20/9 8} 76.Kg4
>{-0.57/13 5} Rd6 {+1.18/9 12} 77.Qc3 {-0.57/13 5} Rd1 {+1.15/9 54} 78.Qb3
>{0.00/12 15}
>Rg1+ {+1.19/9 10} 79.Kf5 {-0.54/12 4} Re1 {+1.15/9 7} 80.Qb2 {-0.50/12 7} Re5+
>{+1.15/9 13} 81.Kf6 {-0.57/13 6} Re8 {+1.18/10 11} 82.Kf5 {-0.50/13 4} Re7
>{+1.14/9 10}
>83.Qc3 {-0.54/12 3} Re5+ {+1.15/9 6} 84.Kf6 {-0.41/13 6} Re8 {+1.13/9 4} 85.Kf5
>{-0.50/13 4} Re2 {+1.13/9 7} 86.Qf6 {-0.54/11 2} Re5+ {+1.15/9 11} 87.Kg4
>{-0.54/13 3}
>Rd5 {+1.15/8 3} 88.Qc6 {-0.50/12 3} Rd1 {+1.07/8 6} 89.Kf5 {-0.50/12 5} Re1
>{+1.13/8 4} 90.Qf6 {-0.50/12 3} Re6 {+1.07/9 7} 91.Qd4 {-0.44/12 4} Re5+
>{+1.12/9 10}
>92.Kf6 {-0.41/13 5} Re8 {+1.09/10 2} 93.Kf5 {-0.41/12 3} Re6 {+1.02/9 6} 94.Qc3
>{-0.54/12 2} Re3 {+1.05/8 4} 95.Qd4 {0.00/15 2} Kh7 {0.00/10 3} 96.Qf6 {0.00/14
>3} Re5+
>{0.00/11 4} 97.Kg4 {0.00/15 2} Kg8 {0.00/12 6} 98.Qd8+ {0.00/16 2} Kg7 {0.00/13
>3}
>99.Qd7 {0.00/20 2} Kg6 {+1.41/8 3} 100.Qc6+ {-0.94/12 2} f6 {+1.30/9 9} 101.Qd6
>{-0.88/12 2} Be3 {+1.46/8 4} 102.Qc6 {-0.91/11 2} Bd4 {+1.59/8 2} 103.Kh3
>{-1.13/11 3}
>Ba7 {+1.49/7 4} 104.Qc2+ {-0.69/10 1} Kh6 {+0.71/8 3} 105.Qc6 {0.00/11 2} Re3+
>{0.00/9 3} 106.Kg4 {0.00/13 1} Bd4 {0.00/10 3} 107.Qh1+ {0.00/13 1} Kg7 {0.00/9
>2}
>108.Qb7+ {0.00/13 2} Kg6 {0.00/9 2} 109.Qd5 {0.00/13 2} Be5 {0.00/11 4} 110.Qg8+
>{0.00/13 1} Kh6 111.Qh8+ {0.00/14 1} Kg6 112.Qg8+ {0.00/15 2} Kh6 113.Qh8+
>{0.00/14 1}
>Kg6 114.Qg8+ {0.00/15 1} {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
looking at the game it seems that movei was outsearched in time trouble
103...Ba7 is drawing but movei thanks to the fact that it does not use hash for
pruning and extends checks too much cannot see it and can get only depth 7 in 4
seconds when gothmog gets depth 10 easily in 1 second.
I can add that something is clearly wrong with the depth in your games and I am
not talking about Movei.
For example:
50.Qa5 {+0.43/3 29}
56.Qf3 {+0.37/3 15}
57.Qd3 {-0.85/4 21}
It is impossible that Gothmog needs 29 seconds to get depth 3.
I suspect that gothmog could win the game if it could get a reasonable depth.
I consider to tell future movei simply to exit the game if it does not get some
minimal number of nodes per second when the user can decide about the minimal
number.
Uri
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