Author: José Carlos
Date: 07:01:27 08/12/04
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On August 12, 2004 at 07:28:54, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On August 12, 2004 at 06:22:50, José Carlos wrote: > >>On August 12, 2004 at 00:32:29, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>> >>>>>Last comment: >>>>>Try ProDeo without the UCI adapter, it works better ... believe me! >>>>> >>>>>Best >>>>>Frank >>>> >>>> Great suggestion, Frank. As I'm so stupid, I never considered running a >>>>winboard engine loaded as a winboard engine. How could I forget that? >>>> Answer: it was the first I tried. It crashed. I didn't call uncle Frank >>>>crying, I just tried the UCI version. It worked. Good enough for me, I don't >>>>need anything else. >>>> >>>> José C. >>> >>>I'm a bit confused myself. I have experienced no problems with the UCI adapter >>>of Pro Deo in Arena, so perhaps there's something strange. I never even bothered >>>to load it as a Winboard engine, since the directions given were to run it as a >>>UCI engine. I ran a full Nunn match without any problems, and have absolutely no >>>problems running the engine to analyze positions. How long am I supposed to run >>>it before problems appear? What kind of problems BTW? >>> >>> Albert >> >> I was only being a bit sarcastic. I tried winboard version and it crashed. >>Then I tried UCI (with the adapter) and it worked. Is has worked fine for me >>since then, without problem. Maybe Frank can illuminate us with "the >>catastrophic problems of using the adapter". >> >> José C. > >Hi José, > >catastrophic problem :-) >A good sentence ... > >It's not the adapter I have a problem! >It's the situation that users are thinking Arena needs Adapter or Converter and >this is wrong. If this is all the problem, great, it's very easy to solve. Just tell them they don't *need* an adapter, but that they can use it if they want. :) >Example: >http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67213/messages/2108.htm >Not a German message :-) > >All engines are playing without adapters / converters and works fine! >Maybe this one explain my messages! A rating list, fine. But in the reply, I see you have problems with Gromit, MAD, and Arasan. They work perfectly here. Maybe you don't know well how to configure them? ;) >Arena don't need an adapter, for Rebel or ProDeo too. In my computer, it does. Believe it or not, that's up to you. >The once reason for an adapter I see is that the users get a little bit more >information from the engine. But here it's more easy as to develops an adapter >to create a new WB protocol. If you want to "monopolize" the adapters and protocols world, you can simply implement more things in Arena. For example, implement an "internal adapter" so that all winboard engines are, from the point of view of the user, working in UCI mode, and thus can be configured with a right click. >In my opinion it's more easy to go direct the way to the end. >Not to go drive over Paris if I have interest to drive from Trier to the next >town Schweich. Here are intellegant programmers, think so, and it must be not a >big problem to build a group for make the WinBoard protocol better. See me other reply to you (in the other post). I'll only add that going to Paris in your example might be a great idea. Paris is a wonderful city. >Often I have the feeling the group is only builded if new things comes (example >Stefan's idea with UCI and the discuss I read here). Only anti UCI discuss but >not one discuss to solved the problems with WB. If users don't find all the nice >information in WB compare the UCI we have all possibilitys to changed that. > >Best >Frank Propose your ideas, please. I'll be happy to listen. But *propose*, don't try to force or convince, just propose. José C.
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