Author: Albert Silver
Date: 07:36:02 08/12/04
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On August 12, 2004 at 03:01:15, Stephen A. Boak wrote:
>On August 11, 2004 at 08:22:14, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2004 at 02:27:24, Stephen A. Boak wrote:
>>
>>>On August 09, 2004 at 18:38:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 09, 2004 at 17:46:00, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 09, 2004 at 15:33:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 09, 2004 at 13:49:55, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, do people atleast agree with me on the facts, that there has been no
>>>>>>>improvement as big as Shredder 7.04 for almost 2 years now, and no percievable
>>>>>>>overtaking of it?
>>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not agree with this descreption of the facts.
>>>>>>A lot of programmers did a bigger improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The improvement in thinker in the last 2 years is clearly more impressive for me
>>>>>>than the improvement in Shredder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I suspect that a lot of programmers are in their way to overtake Shredder7.04
>>>>>>and I will not be surprised if some of them will even give a free program that
>>>>>>is significantly stronger than shredder7.04.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you mean improvement in thinking? (or a program named "thinker"?)
>>>>
>>>>A program named thinker.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So you are disagreeing with ONE of my points, that there have been bigger
>>>>>improvements, but not that something has actually overtaken Shredder 7.04 in 2
>>>>>years.(?)
>>>>>
>>>>>And you are predicting that by the end of this year there will be a significant
>>>>>increase in playing level and success from somewhere?
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>I do not know much about the commercial programs and the improvement that I see
>>>>is with the free programs.
>>>>
>>>>2-3 years ago a program like resp0.14 or Delfi2.0 could become a champion of new
>>>>engines in WBEC
>>>>Today a program at that level is nothing impressive and there are new programs
>>>>like Naum that are probably more than 200 elo better than resp0.14 or delfi2.0.
>>>>
>>>>If this tendency continue in 2 years the first program that people release will
>>>>be better than shredder8.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>:) lol
>>
>>
>>:-)))) Well, let's see. My first rating was 1580. My second rating a year later
>>was 1810. If I had followed that same rate from the beginning, then in 4 years
>>I'd have been of strong grandmaster strength, and in 5 years I'd have been the
>>world's best player. Damn, I must have been studying the wrong things.... :-P
>>
>> Albert
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>:-)))) I do not agree with this descreption of the facts.
>A lot of players did a bigger improvement.
>
>The improvement in some other players in the last 2 years is clearly more
>impressive for me than the improvement in Albert.
>
>I suspect that a lot of players are in their way to overtake 'Albert-2004'
>and I will not be surprised if some of them will even give a amateur performance
>that is significantly stronger than 'Albert-2004'.
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Errr... I never said those were the *last* two years. They were my *first* two
years. I learned chess when I was 18, and my first rating was 1580. As to rating
jumps, my biggest wasn't then, it was from 1880 (my 3rd rating) to 2230
(maintained btw, as it was 2240 in the following list).
Albert
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>
>:-)))) Tendency of tendency analogy:
>
>If this tendency continue ... all theories will be proven to QED level. Then,
>facts will finally be unnecessary.
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>
>--Steve :)
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