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Subject: Re: Pro Deo FAQ

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 10:06:14 08/12/04

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On August 12, 2004 at 12:20:45, David Dahlem wrote:

>On August 11, 2004 at 07:20:12, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On August 11, 2004 at 06:34:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues.
>>>>
>>>>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster,
>>>>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time
>>>>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you
>>>>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may
>>>>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the
>>>>game.
>>>>
>>>>....
>>>>
>>>>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as
>>>>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL.
>>>>
>>>>    [Pruning = MISC_78]
>>>>
>>>>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls,
>>>>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG
>>>>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one.
>>>>
>>>>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>Hi Ed,
>>>
>>>the problems we have with Arena Support:
>>>
>>>01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good
>>>feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't
>>>need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I
>>>know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in
>>>a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must
>>>make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-(
>>>
>>>In German I say:
>>>EIN ALPTRAUM!
>>>Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung!
>>>
>>>02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena
>>>tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney
>>>will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our
>>>interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger
>>>changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for
>>>other programs which works fine.
>>>It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The
>>>compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all
>>>compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's
>>>Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>PS:
>>>More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons
>>>which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good
>>>engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users
>>>have more fun with an engine!
>>>
>>>PS2:
>>>After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the
>>>engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the
>>>time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and
>>>it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine
>>>with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration
>>>chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team
>>>it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and
>>>adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't
>>>need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by
>>>Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages).
>>
>>Okay then, I will make sure that in the next version Pro Deo will refuse to run
>>under Arena. My advantage: I don't have to listen to your ramblings anymore,
>>your advantage no more support emails. Everybody happy.
>>
>>My best,
>>
>>Ed


>Hi Ed
>
>Just ignore Frank and his nonsensical ramblings, and please don't punish loyal
>users of your engine and Arena users.

The problem with Frank is that he is not a somebody, he is the face, spokesman
and commercial distributor of Arena so I can't fully ignore him. The man simply
lacks the basic skills of normal human communication.


>Pro Deo works great under Arena. :-)

I know, glad to hear you like it.

My best,

Ed



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