Author: David Dahlem
Date: 10:28:05 08/12/04
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On August 12, 2004 at 13:06:14, Ed Schröder wrote: >On August 12, 2004 at 12:20:45, David Dahlem wrote: > >>On August 11, 2004 at 07:20:12, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On August 11, 2004 at 06:34:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>> >>>>On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues. >>>>> >>>>>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster, >>>>>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time >>>>>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you >>>>>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may >>>>>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the >>>>>game. >>>>> >>>>>.... >>>>> >>>>>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as >>>>>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL. >>>>> >>>>> [Pruning = MISC_78] >>>>> >>>>>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls, >>>>>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG >>>>>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one. >>>>> >>>>>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>> >>>>Hi Ed, >>>> >>>>the problems we have with Arena Support: >>>> >>>>01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good >>>>feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't >>>>need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I >>>>know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in >>>>a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must >>>>make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-( >>>> >>>>In German I say: >>>>EIN ALPTRAUM! >>>>Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung! >>>> >>>>02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena >>>>tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney >>>>will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our >>>>interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger >>>>changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for >>>>other programs which works fine. >>>>It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The >>>>compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all >>>>compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's >>>>Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time. >>>> >>>>Best >>>>Frank >>>> >>>>PS: >>>>More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons >>>>which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good >>>>engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users >>>>have more fun with an engine! >>>> >>>>PS2: >>>>After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the >>>>engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the >>>>time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and >>>>it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine >>>>with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration >>>>chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team >>>>it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and >>>>adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't >>>>need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by >>>>Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages). >>> >>>Okay then, I will make sure that in the next version Pro Deo will refuse to run >>>under Arena. My advantage: I don't have to listen to your ramblings anymore, >>>your advantage no more support emails. Everybody happy. >>> >>>My best, >>> >>>Ed > > >>Hi Ed >> >>Just ignore Frank and his nonsensical ramblings, and please don't punish loyal >>users of your engine and Arena users. > >The problem with Frank is that he is not a somebody, he is the face, spokesman >and commercial distributor of Arena so I can't fully ignore him. The man simply >lacks the basic skills of normal human communication. > > >>Pro Deo works great under Arena. :-) > >I know, glad to hear you like it. > >My best, > >Ed Hi Ed Arena is freeware, not commercial. So Frank only speaks for himself, not all other Arena users. So you can ignore him. :-) Again, many thanks for ProDeo and Rebel. Regards Dave
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