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Subject: Re: Pro Deo FAQ

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 10:28:05 08/12/04

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On August 12, 2004 at 13:06:14, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On August 12, 2004 at 12:20:45, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On August 11, 2004 at 07:20:12, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On August 11, 2004 at 06:34:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 11, 2004 at 05:33:32, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just updated my pages with a FAQ, I list the most important issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>Under ChessBase and perhaps other Interfaces such as Arena, ChessMaster,
>>>>>Winboard a time-control problem may or may not occur. Using the tournament time
>>>>>control make sure that time-control-1 is equal to time-control-2 and that you
>>>>>zero time-control-3. So: 40/2hr+40/2hr or 40/20+40/20. Doing otherwise it may
>>>>>happen PRO DEO will start moving instantly after move 41 for the rest of the
>>>>>game.
>>>>>
>>>>>....
>>>>>
>>>>>It's safe to add the following parameter to your REBEL.ENG personality file as
>>>>>found in the sub-folder PERSONAL.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [Pruning = MISC_78]
>>>>>
>>>>>The parameter adds considerable strength to PRO DEO on longer time controls,
>>>>>approximately 5-10 elo. You can download the new setting HERE. Unzip REBEL.ENG
>>>>>into your PRODEO/PERSONAL folder, it will automatically overwrite the old one.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://members.home.nl/matador/faq.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>
>>>>the problems we have with Arena Support:
>>>>
>>>>01. A lot of users seems to be sleeping with adapters / converters with a good
>>>>feeling because users need adapters / converters for other GUIs. Arena don't
>>>>need such things because Arena have a great WB and UCI support (after all what I
>>>>know the best support from all available GUIs and this is fact). We tested it in
>>>>a big group of persons around 10 months (last year in summer time). Now we must
>>>>make support for persons which try to add engines in Arena with adapter :-(
>>>>
>>>>In German I say:
>>>>EIN ALPTRAUM!
>>>>Niemand hängt an einem Ferrari eine Anhängerkupplung!
>>>>
>>>>02. The second problem is the move limit. Some users reported that in Arena
>>>>tourneys ProDeo seems to make problems after 120 moves. The complete tourney
>>>>will not longer running. Only for ProDeo to make changes in Arena is not in our
>>>>interest because we have the same opinion as Tim Mann. To make now bigger
>>>>changes in a good running GUI with execelent protocol support is danger for
>>>>other programs which works fine.
>>>>It's not in the interest of our team to make the situation more complicated. The
>>>>compatiblity is our first interest. You know that I try since years to make all
>>>>compatible and to give some helps for users. Example are the WB pages "Frank's
>>>>Chess Page" as number 1 in the FIDE statistics at this time.
>>>>
>>>>Best
>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>PS:
>>>>More easy is more user friendly and more support friendly for other persons
>>>>which try to make a little bit. I hope you can thinking about it and a good
>>>>engine don't need a FAQ. A good readme file is absolutly enough and the users
>>>>have more fun with an engine!
>>>>
>>>>PS2:
>>>>After a long time it's nice to see that you go the way of WB. You make the
>>>>engine compatible to the others. I thinking on your comments for 4-5 years, the
>>>>time WB have success. You are not a fan of this engine protocol in this time and
>>>>it's nice to see that you go now the right way. But better with a clear engine
>>>>with clear configuration. If not in all fora we can read a big configuration
>>>>chaos, maybe this is in your interest but for the others, like the Arena team
>>>>it's horror because I get more and more mails with questions to converter and
>>>>adapter. In fact Arena don't need it and now I have to explain that Arena don't
>>>>need such a way. In the past I explain the converter / adapter (like Phase X by
>>>>Gambit-Soft with more as 300.000 reading pages).
>>>
>>>Okay then, I will make sure that in the next version Pro Deo will refuse to run
>>>under Arena. My advantage: I don't have to listen to your ramblings anymore,
>>>your advantage no more support emails. Everybody happy.
>>>
>>>My best,
>>>
>>>Ed
>
>
>>Hi Ed
>>
>>Just ignore Frank and his nonsensical ramblings, and please don't punish loyal
>>users of your engine and Arena users.
>
>The problem with Frank is that he is not a somebody, he is the face, spokesman
>and commercial distributor of Arena so I can't fully ignore him. The man simply
>lacks the basic skills of normal human communication.
>
>
>>Pro Deo works great under Arena. :-)
>
>I know, glad to hear you like it.
>
>My best,
>
>Ed

Hi Ed

Arena is freeware, not commercial. So Frank only speaks for himself, not all
other Arena users. So you can ignore him. :-)

Again, many thanks for ProDeo and Rebel.

Regards
Dave



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