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Subject: Re: Kindly ignore my post

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 22:48:42 08/14/04

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On August 14, 2004 at 19:50:26, Peter Berger wrote:

>On August 14, 2004 at 14:01:31, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 2004 at 13:55:17, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On August 14, 2004 at 12:24:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>[Event "Match  rapid 90 min"]
>>>>[Site "Abu Dhabi"]
>>>>[Date "2004.08.14"]
>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>[White "Hydra"]
>>>>[Black "Shredder"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "B80"]
>>>>[Annotator "Hydra"]
>>>>[PlyCount "75"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 {0s} c5 {Buch 0s} 2. Nf3 {8s} d6 {Buch 0s} 3. d4 {8s} cxd4 {Buch 0s} 4.
>>>>Nxd4 {1:17m} Nf6 {Buch 0s} 5. Nc3 {17s} a6 {Buch 0s} 6. Be3 {13s (Lg5)} e6 {
>>>>Buch 0s} 7. f3 {2:10m (Le2)} b5 {Buch 0s} 8. g4 {19s (Dd2)} h6 {Buch 0s} 9. Qd2
>>>>{16s} Nbd7 {Buch 0s} 10. O-O-O {34s} Bb7 {Buch 0s} 11. h4 {12s} d5 {Buch 0s}
>>>>12. exd5 {2:13m} Nxd5 {Buch 0s} 13. Nxd5 {1:43m} Bxd5 {Buch 0s} 14. Bg2 {4:19m}
>>>>Ne5 {Buch 1s} 15. Qe2 {2:41m} Qa5 {Buch 2s} 16. f4 {2:02m} Qxa2 {Buch 2s} 17.
>>>>Bxd5 {2:19m} Qa1+ {+0.14/16 33s} 18. Kd2 {15s} Bb4+ {-0.31/17 51s} 19. c3 {
>>>>1:19m} Qxb2+ {-0.41/19 1:10m} 20. Ke1 {1:02m} Bxc3+ {-0.43/19 1:02m} 21. Kf1 {
>>>>2:45m} exd5 {-0.48/20 2s} 22. fxe5 {2:07m} Qb4 {-0.48/19 2s} 23. Bf2 {
>>>>2:19m (Kf2)} O-O {-0.58/20 3:59m} 24. g5 {9:52m (Sc6)} Bxd4 {-0.89/20 4:22m}
>>>>25. Bxd4 {9s} h5 {-0.98/19 2:35m} 26. Kg2 {14s (Dxh5)} Rac8 {-0.98/19 3:56m}
>>>>27. Rhf1 {14s} Qe7 {-1.16/18 2:18m} 28. Qxh5 {2:38m} Rc2+ {-1.38/18 49s} 29.
>>>>Kg3 {1:11m} Rc6 {-1.64/18 1:19m} 30. Rd3 {2:40m} a5 {-1.90/18 1:06m} 31. Rdf3 {
>>>>4:31m} Re6 {-2.63/17 9:03m} 32. Rf6 {2:00m} Rxe5 {-2.72/19 3s} 33. Bxe5 {2:34m}
>>>>Qxe5+ {-2.72/19 3s} 34. R6f4 {2:24m} a4 {-2.84/17 54s} 35. Kg2 {1:42m} d4 {
>>>>-3.59/18 1:36m} 36. Rxf7 {1:51m (Tf5)} Qd5+ {-4.04/17 3:00m} 37. R7f3 {1:46m}
>>>>Rc8 {-4.23/18 3s} 38. Re1 {1:22m (Df7+)} 1-0
>>>
>>>
>>>Great opening preparation by the Hydra team. As mentioned by Drexel, there are
>>>little to no games with 11...d5 yet it was clearly a carefully planned line.
>>>
>>>[D]r2qkb1r/1b1n1pp1/p3pn1p/1p1p4/3NP1PP/2N1BP2/PPPQ4/2KR1B1R w kq -
>>>
>>>I have 10 in my database, the last 2 being from... Ramat Gan 2004(!) between
>>>Falcon and Shredder in round 11, and the other being a quick 15 move draw in
>>>France. It was hardly a blunder on Black's part though, since White's 13.Nxd5 is
>>>a theoretical novelty and Black was in book until 16.Qxa2. Shredder was
>>>outbooked here.
>>>
>>
>>Holy balls. I'm throwing out that coffee brand. I read 0-1 believe it or not.
>>Well, Shredder was outbooked... by its very self. Oh well.
>>
>>                                        Albert
>
>Hey, and I thought your message was observant and brilliant ;) ..
>
>Najdorf is Russian Roulette IMHO - or at least it puts an incredible amount of
>responsibility to the book cooks, as engines are prone to fall into all kind of
>traps. It doesn't matter that Hydra found all moves by itself - why allow this
>kind of gamble anyway? And there is some irony in having the Falcon-Shredder
>setup repeated shortly later. While Hydra's playing strength is unknown to us
>humble ordinary earthlings I can't understand why Shredder should enter this
>kind of gamble anyway, that doesn't play into its own strengths at all.

     It may be an almost unsolvable work to check thousands of
     Shredder booklines having played some day by the program
     and to sort out those which should never be played again.
     Kurt



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