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Subject: Re: Difference Statistically: Hardware - Shredder vs. Hydra?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:27:59 08/19/04

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On August 19, 2004 at 10:15:01, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On August 18, 2004 at 22:18:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 18, 2004 at 17:08:03, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 18, 2004 at 16:59:07, David H. McClain wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am not sure what hardware Shredder is using.  Nevertheless, in general terms,
>>>>can an evaluation of any advantage be assessed with hardware of Hydra vs.
>>>>Shredder?
>>>>
>>>>DHM
>>>
>>>It was reported that Shredder is using the same quad Opteron that it used in
>>>WCCC.  But how you decide who has a hardware advantage when the platforms are so
>>>different is beyond me.
>>>
>>>Dan H.
>>
>>
>>Saying that Hydra has a _huge_ hardware advantage is easy.  Trying to precisely
>>quantify how large that advantage is is not so easy...
>
>Honestly, I am not so sure how big that advantage is.  Hydra runs on 16
>processors instead of 4, so for the same nps it is less efficient.  In addition,
>his cards can't probe the hash table in the last few ply which also leads to a
>lot of duplicate work.  I have a suspicious Hydra gets a speedup of 4 or so . .
>.
>anthony


Wouldn't begin to speculate there.  I was looking solely at hardware.  Which is
simply way faster for Hydra with special-purpose hardware.  How efficient the
parallel search is, loss from hash table issues, etc, is a question without
enough information to answer at present...




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