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Subject: Re: Draw position?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:49:28 08/20/04

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On August 20, 2004 at 09:02:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>Again an impressive analysis of Yace showing that
>this program is one of the best (if not the best)
>engine in the endgame.
>Kurt


I think that is a bit misplaced here.  It took yace 6.5 _minutes_ to find the
win.  I doubt either program playing the _real_ game had 6.5 minutes to spend on
that move.

However, without that, I can't imagine Crafty drawing this unless there is (a)
no endgame tables available;  (b) very little time left;  (c) it is playing in a
mode where it has no game history and can't detect repetitions.  Here is output
from Crafty in this position:

               19    40.64  -4.25   1. ... Bb7 2. Nd2 Bd4 3. Nf3 Bf6 4.
                                    Ne1 Ke3 5. Kg1 Ke2 6. Nf3 Be4 7. Nh2
                                    Bd4+ 8. Kh1 Kf2 9. Ng4+ Ke1 <HT> (s=7)
               19     1:14     -1   1. ... Ke3!!
               19     1:15     -3   1. ... Ke3!!
               19     1:31  -5.45   1. ... Ke3 2. Kh1 Ke2 3. Kh2 Be3 4.
                                    Nxh4 Kf2 5. Kh1 Bc4 6. Nf5 Bf4 7. g3
                                    Bd5+ 8. Kh2 Be5 9. h4 Be6 10. Kh3 Bxf5+
                                    11. g4 Be4 12. h5
               19->   1:33  -5.45   1. ... Ke3 2. Kh1 Ke2 3. Kh2 Be3 4.
                                    Nxh4 Kf2 5. Kh1 Bc4 6. Nf5 Bf4 7. g3
                                    Bd5+ 8. Kh2 Be5 9. h4 Be6 10. Kh3 Bxf5+
                                    11. g4 Be4 12. h5 (s=2)
               20     1:34     -1   1. ... Ke3!!
               20     1:38     -3   1. ... Ke3!!
               20     1:41  -6.50   1. ... Ke3 2. Kh1 Ke2 3. Ng1+ Kf1 4.
                                    Nf3 Bg3 5. Nh2+ Bxh2 6. Kxh2 Kf2 7.
                                    Kh1 Ke3 8. Kh2 Kf4 9. g3+ hxg3+ 10.
                                    Kg1 Kg5 11. h4+ Kxh4 12. Kf1 Kh3 13.
                                    Kg1 g2 14. Kf2 Kh2
               20->   3:48  -6.50   1. ... Ke3 2. Kh1 Ke2 3. Ng1+ Kf1 4.
                                    Nf3 Bg3 5. Nh2+ Bxh2 6. Kxh2 Kf2 7.
                                    Kh1 Ke3 8. Kh2 Kf4 9. g3+ hxg3+ 10.
                                    Kg1 Kg5 11. h4+ Kxh4 12. Kf1 Kh3 13.
                                    Kg1 g2 14. Kf2 Kh2 (s=16)
               21     3:51     -1   1. ... Ke3!!


I only used 5-piece endgame tables which everybody should have today...




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