Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 05:57:26 08/22/04
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On August 22, 2004 at 08:34:53, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 22, 2004 at 08:05:33, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>I give you a serious hint, Frank. You are a businessman and you already use >>ElChinito in combination with one of your products. You cannot pretend to be >>innocent as long as no clear "proof" did exist that ElChinito is a clone. If you >>are using it however you should be very certain that it's NOT a clone. It all >>falls back on you as the businessman, because if it's a clone, the programmers >>might be far out of reach for possible recompensations. So you should be a bit >>more interested into the details of the question. >> >>IMO you can't take the opinion that you are sober when you "use" this program as >>long as it's not clearly proven that it's a clone. Sorry for that position, but >>before you are hirt in your business interests, you should carefully check the >>here given position. I hope this helps you. >> >>A good idea could be that your programmers hat to certify you that their product >>is NO clone of Crafty. If then this is proven as a lie, then you have best >>chances to be out of troubles. > >Crafty is only one of many programs that programmers use for clones. > >3 examples for other clones that were detected: > >Pepito clone(deep9) >Arasan clone(OldblindDog) >Faile clone(Luiza) > >No body knows how many clones were not detected as clones. > >Uri As I start with WinBoard for around 5-6 years, we have only three programs which are compatible to the great engine protocol by Tim. GnuChess TheCrazyBishop Crafty I have a lot of fun with this topic and created a bigger webpage, powered the complete area with all possibilitys I saw / have, about with Gambit-Soft, links to WB forum and so on. Some other persons made the same and a new computer chess area started with the possibility of "Engines". The commercials made the GUIs compatible to Winboard and some other things go the right way and go a way the most users like. Today we have more as 300 chess programs which used the idea and protocol sources by Tim Mann. This is not a bad situation because the community is bigger and bigger and more and more persons have interest on this area. Uri, you can be sure that much persons switched information about chess programming. Look today on all the www pages about chess programming. You can find a lot and after a study of this pages with knowledge about chess and programming each person can start very "easy" the way to the first own chess program. The open sources by Bob are for sure one of the reasons that persons try to write an own chess program. All the helps by Bob and other programmers too. You can be sure, that a lot of programs are build by helps by the others but ... "WITH OWN IDEAS". For years we haven't such possibilitys today we have it. But if a programmer used the sources without the permission of the main programmer we have a problem. I have written a mail to Bob, Eugenio, Pascal and you can be sure that the discuss is solved by mail. I don't think that Eugenio is a copy but if so I delete the program from Arena webpages. This topic haven't to do with an interesting forum. Clear that the persons search a sensation, the Americans like it :-) and try it with all tricks. A lot of persons try to are a "hero" with some bad things. But the right way is to contact the programmers ... Only my opinion about it! Best Frank
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