Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:53:05 08/22/04
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On August 22, 2004 at 11:45:36, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On August 22, 2004 at 11:29:35, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 22, 2004 at 11:09:19, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2004 at 10:45:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>Hi Bob, >>> >>>that's Bob Hyatt live. >>> >>>If I read your words it seems you are a little bit disappointed about different >>>things in the past. But you have give the community a lot and you have no reason >>>for it (my opinion if I am right). >>> >>>Have the same opinion about it what you have written! >>> >>>In the case of ELChinito: >>>The "main" programmer Eugenio work a long time on "Eugen" and participant on >>>different Spain-ch, French programmer tournament in Massy. He have good contacts >>>to the group of French chess programmers and after all I know Eugenio is very >>>popular in this group of programmers. Not to do that maybe or perhaps the >>>programmer created a clone of Crafty. >>> >>>The chess program Eugen are a dos program and very very strong. I believe if >>>ELChinito today have a playing level around 2.550 ELO the older DOS program is >>>playing with around 2.350-2.400 ELO, perhaps a little bit more! >>> >>>For me it's an important topic now because I have no interest to add a clone >>>from Crafty on my webpage. If you have any clear information for me that your >>>sources are copyed by the ELChinito team I will delete the program, same for >>>others programs! >> >>The important thing that you can learn from Bob's post is that Eugen Castillo >>did something that is not allowed. >> >>The word clone may be technically wrong but >>Bob claims that even if Elchinito is not a clone then it is clear that Elchinito >>copied large chunks of Crafty and it is not allowed to do it(or in bob's words >>not a permissable activity). >> >>Here are the relevant words of Bob again: >> >>"2. I didn't "break the story". I haven't even decided that this program is a >>clone, although I will be the first to admit that the evidence presented at >>least shows that the program copied large (if not all) chunks of Crafty, which >>is still not a permissable activity." >> >>Uri > >Hi Uri, > >wrong! >The relevant words for a chess forum by Bob is for me: >"If someone isn't honest, there is little to be done about it." > >You wrote that Eugenio did something! >You know it? I have interestest on his opinion about it! > >It's weekend, perhaps Eugenio is in holiday! >Don't forget it!! > >For Bob Hyatt: >Your sentence: >>"2. I didn't "break the story". I haven't even decided that this program is a >>clone, although I will be the first to admit that the evidence presented at >>least shows that the program copied large (if not all) chunks of Crafty, which >>is still not a permissable activity." > >I understand what you mean but your sentence it´s for me not clear enough to >delete ELChinito on Arena webpages. I have no interest to get problems with such >things but I need a clearly difination from Bob! > >Frank, you can delete! >Frank, please let us wait of the answer by Eugenio! > >This is what I await! >I understand what Bob mean but he don't gave me this what I await. > >And ... >Believe me, for a chess forum is much more interesting: >"If someone isn't honest, there is little to be done about it." > >Best >Frank Clearly there is a problem. Some parts of Crafty have made it into this program. That much is clear. Now the question is "how much" but it already looks like too much based on what has been presented. IE is it as bad as the infamous voyager/le petite case? No idea yet.
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