Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 09:21:56 08/22/04
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On August 22, 2004 at 11:53:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 22, 2004 at 11:45:36, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >Clearly there is a problem. Some parts of Crafty have made it into this >program. That much is clear. Now the question is "how much" but it already >looks like too much based on what has been presented. IE is it as bad as the >infamous voyager/le petite case? No idea yet. Hi Bob, thanks again. OK, this is clearer for me. To your question: I am sure that this case is not to compare with Voyager / LaPetite / LaGrande. Voyager the first version, LaPetite is the light version of the second program name and LaGrande the full version of the second program name or better the clones of Crafty! I don't have information about the sources of ELChinito (I am not a programmer and understand only 5-10% of chess sources in C). I will wait of the answer by ELChinito programmer Eugenio before I delete the program and discredit the programmers of ELChinito. If we have not an answere in the next 14 days I will delete the program. Read this one (little review about ELChinito, around 2 1/2 years old): Surprisingly El Chinito won of franz. programmers organized fourth tournament in Massy 2002. With Eugenio I had contacts in the last years occasionally. Due to the impressing results in Massy 2002 (El Chinito lost not one game and won convincingly with one point projection/lead) I have a small talk with Eugenio by mail held … To the programmer Turnier in Massy, France: The idea to the programmer Turnier in Massy (France) was transferred by the Mr. Frédéric LOUGUET (Chess Wizard), Sylvain RENARD (Capture) and Franck ZIBI (ZChess, now Pharaon). Target should be that the programmers apart from of many years organized the French championship second meet time in year around information to exchange and naturally over simply fun to have. Computer chess in France is very importantly for the area amateur chess generally and played from ever ago a large role. Already promptly placed franz. To promote programmer WinBoard versions freely for the order around the amateur chess area with your means. Professor Dr. Djordje Vidanovic had forwards approx.. 3-4 years important contacts initiated. Eugenio (35 years) comes from Spain and lived for a time into Germany . Pascal (32 years, freshly married) is born in Vietnam (he comes from a Chinese family). He lives with his family many years in France now already and has franz. Nationality. Eugenio wrote its first program with 17 years, a program for the solve from mate problems. With 19 Eugenio developed its first chess program (QL / Basic). Eugenio has still further hobbies apart from chess e.g. sport generally, Jogging, "Footing as mentioned", mountain pastes and computers of plays as "Civilization". Pascal concerns itself apart from chess with KungFu and Chinese philosophy. The two became acquainted with themselves with the WM in Jakarta 1996. Beside the first Fritz versions busy itself Eugenio also gladly with Junior, Hiarcs, Rebel and other programs. Also Eugenio always operated on its own program Eugen. The philosophies for El Chinito developed 1999, the first versions in the year 2001 were finished placed. Pascal says that Eugenio is the main programmers of El Chinito and it would be hardly possible for El Chinito without its work to develop. Thus the two programmers with its common development El Chinito played your first tournament in Massy 2001. Few information to El a Chinito: El Chinito is pure C program, not C++ or assembler and over 400 positions per second on a K7 1,6 GHz computers. El Chinito is more intelligent than fast. And yes, we use 16 bit attack tables (Eugen uses this since 1995). Speciall selective move algorithms. Uses learning for positions and openings. Nullmove with (R=2). At present El Chinito can be regarded as purely private amateur chess a development. The support for WinBoard is intended. Eugenio does not believe the fact that commercial chess brings very much cash and I think we all can only hope that El Chinito the user however constituted, freely or perhaps nevertheless commercially is made available. Original comment of Eugenio: "in Massy 2002 almost all programmers under the two user interfaces Arena or WinBoard played: -) I believe we already very soon a El Chinito WinBoard version will have". Beside El Chinito operate Eugenio and Pascal also on XieXie. XieXie is "Chinese Chess Program". The two intend to go at the WM 2002 in the Maastricht with both programs to the start. Note: The WM in Maastricht becomes of 05th July - 11th July, 2002 take place. An interesting comment on the conditions in Massy: "I prefer 30 minutes portions, like in Massy privately also However I would not like to state necessarily that El Chinito is particularly good with this time keeping." Also I addressed Eugenio on other strong Spanish programs. My ulterior motive was to be gotten to know it, why the Spanish championship was not executed in the last year. After the knowledge of Eugenio the well-known Spanish programs become probably Toledeo (Zeuss) and Bestabe no longer continues to develop. The programmer von Ruy Lopez stays at present in the USA. Public on my older Frank's Chess Page! --- I have no interest to get problems and have no interest to give to many of my time for such things. Best Frank
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