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Subject: Re: Bob: ELChinito a clone from Crafty ...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:03:42 08/22/04

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On August 22, 2004 at 22:03:19, Stuart Cracraft wrote:

>On August 22, 2004 at 11:29:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2004 at 11:09:19, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2004 at 10:45:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Bob,
>>>
>>>that's Bob Hyatt live.
>>>
>>>If I read your words it seems you are a little bit disappointed about different
>>>things in the past. But you have give the community a lot and you have no reason
>>>for it (my opinion if I am right).
>>>
>>>Have the same opinion about it what you have written!
>>>
>>>In the case of ELChinito:
>>>The "main" programmer Eugenio work a long time on "Eugen" and participant on
>>>different Spain-ch, French programmer tournament in Massy. He have good contacts
>>>to the group of French chess programmers and after all I know Eugenio is very
>>>popular in this group of programmers. Not to do that maybe or perhaps the
>>>programmer created a clone of Crafty.
>>>
>>>The chess program Eugen are a dos program and very very strong. I believe if
>>>ELChinito today have a playing level around 2.550 ELO the older DOS program is
>>>playing with around 2.350-2.400 ELO, perhaps a little bit more!
>>>
>>>For me it's an important topic now because I have no interest to add a clone
>>>from Crafty on my webpage. If you have any clear information for me that your
>>>sources are copyed by the ELChinito team I will delete the program, same for
>>>others programs!
>>
>>The important thing that you can learn from Bob's post is that Eugen Castillo
>>did something that is not allowed.
>>
>>The word clone may be technically wrong but
>>Bob claims that even if Elchinito is not a clone then it is clear that Elchinito
>>copied large chunks of Crafty and it is not allowed to do it(or in bob's words
>>not a permissable activity).
>>
>>Here are the relevant words of Bob again:
>>
>>"2.  I didn't "break the story".  I haven't even decided that this program is a
>>clone, although I will be the first to admit that the evidence presented at
>>least shows that the program copied large (if not all) chunks of Crafty, which
>>is still not a permissable activity."
>>
>>Uri
>
>And that is why my opinion continues to be that Crafty should be
>GPL'd by GNU and Bob could be freed up from the kind of policing he
>has to do. Or if not policing then the worry or ennui he may have
>as a result.
>
>GPL/GNU is the right way to go and I am not sure I understand why
>Bob doesn't, and everybody else does.
>
>Bob, care to answer that? What do you have against Crafty being GPL/GNU.
>The foundation attorney is happy to track things like this kind of nonsense
>down. It happens all the time.
>
>Stuart

It won't stop this particular problem at all.  How many programs started with
gnuchess which is GPL???

You can't legislate this problem away...





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