Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:01:45 08/23/04
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On August 23, 2004 at 00:19:39, Lance Perkins wrote: >I believe its because no one has really complained about the copying of GNU >Chess. If Crafty were GLP and we get all these copying violations, I'm sure that >the GNU organization will gladly go after the violators. There is little they can do if someone doesn't try to sell the thing. Very few have tried that route... > > >On August 22, 2004 at 23:03:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 22, 2004 at 22:03:19, Stuart Cracraft wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2004 at 11:29:35, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 22, 2004 at 11:09:19, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 22, 2004 at 10:45:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Hi Bob, >>>>> >>>>>that's Bob Hyatt live. >>>>> >>>>>If I read your words it seems you are a little bit disappointed about different >>>>>things in the past. But you have give the community a lot and you have no reason >>>>>for it (my opinion if I am right). >>>>> >>>>>Have the same opinion about it what you have written! >>>>> >>>>>In the case of ELChinito: >>>>>The "main" programmer Eugenio work a long time on "Eugen" and participant on >>>>>different Spain-ch, French programmer tournament in Massy. He have good contacts >>>>>to the group of French chess programmers and after all I know Eugenio is very >>>>>popular in this group of programmers. Not to do that maybe or perhaps the >>>>>programmer created a clone of Crafty. >>>>> >>>>>The chess program Eugen are a dos program and very very strong. I believe if >>>>>ELChinito today have a playing level around 2.550 ELO the older DOS program is >>>>>playing with around 2.350-2.400 ELO, perhaps a little bit more! >>>>> >>>>>For me it's an important topic now because I have no interest to add a clone >>>>>from Crafty on my webpage. If you have any clear information for me that your >>>>>sources are copyed by the ELChinito team I will delete the program, same for >>>>>others programs! >>>> >>>>The important thing that you can learn from Bob's post is that Eugen Castillo >>>>did something that is not allowed. >>>> >>>>The word clone may be technically wrong but >>>>Bob claims that even if Elchinito is not a clone then it is clear that Elchinito >>>>copied large chunks of Crafty and it is not allowed to do it(or in bob's words >>>>not a permissable activity). >>>> >>>>Here are the relevant words of Bob again: >>>> >>>>"2. I didn't "break the story". I haven't even decided that this program is a >>>>clone, although I will be the first to admit that the evidence presented at >>>>least shows that the program copied large (if not all) chunks of Crafty, which >>>>is still not a permissable activity." >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>And that is why my opinion continues to be that Crafty should be >>>GPL'd by GNU and Bob could be freed up from the kind of policing he >>>has to do. Or if not policing then the worry or ennui he may have >>>as a result. >>> >>>GPL/GNU is the right way to go and I am not sure I understand why >>>Bob doesn't, and everybody else does. >>> >>>Bob, care to answer that? What do you have against Crafty being GPL/GNU. >>>The foundation attorney is happy to track things like this kind of nonsense >>>down. It happens all the time. >>> >>>Stuart >> >>It won't stop this particular problem at all. How many programs started with >>gnuchess which is GPL??? >> >>You can't legislate this problem away...
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