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Subject: Re: ElChinito disassembly for all of us

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 15:07:40 08/23/04

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On August 23, 2004 at 17:42:38, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 23, 2004 at 17:17:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2004 at 16:26:27, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On August 23, 2004 at 16:02:18, Roger Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually there is a readme in the El Chinito package, in which the word Crafty
>>>>>does not appear.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gábor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello Gabor,
>>>>
>>>>Not even as a contributor or a source of inspiration.  That has to be, at a
>>>>minimum, quite rude.
>>>
>>>The readme was written by Frank, not Eugenio Castillo.
>>>
>>>I discerned that ElChinito used the crafty framework in 2003.  I exchanged
>>>emails with Eugenio Castillo about it.  I suggested that he make the project
>>>open source and give attributions (both according to the crafty license) and
>>>that he should discuss it with Dr. Hyatt.
>>>
>>>He did try to contact Dr. Hyatt, according to email that I received Sat
>>>11/8/2003 4:39 AM:
>>>
>>>"i've write to Hyatt but still no answers, i do it 2
>>>times in 3 days (the public email from icdchess). This
>>>can be good or very bad."
>>>
>>>I assumed that somehow the matter hand been straightened out.  It might be good
>>>for Dr. Hyatt to check his email archives.  Perhaps something appeared to be
>>>spam but was actually an attempt to arbitrate the situation and has been
>>>overlooked.
>>
>>
>>Excuse me, are you saying that because Eugenio is pretending of having tried to
>>contact Bob via email in 2003 that AND that he didn't succeed in getting an
>>exchange with Bob that therefore Eugenio was allowed to steal the parts of Bob's
>>code without any permission?  I doubt that this logic is the actually leading
>>logic in Spain! Spain is part of the EU and the laws of copyright are valide
>>through whole Europe. The Law says without a doubt that you cannot steal code
>>and use it from Crafty without the permission of Bob to use it. The whole
>>question by Frank Q. namely if Chinito is a Crafty clone - this is absolutely
>>uninteresting. Already now we know that parts of Crafty code incl.  the bugs has
>>been illegally used without Bob's permission. Case closed. Frank must throw that
>>program from his webpage, period.
>
>I did not say any of those things.  I do not think that you understood my
>message.


Ahem. Now that is the position for defenders of ElChinito. I see... Perhaps Bob
will even declare that he had forgotten that he had given permission to Eugenio
long ago...

Like Bob always said, if a frog had pockets and could fly... then he could carry
a gun and control the traffic in L.A. from the air. My version because I like
California more than Alabama. :)



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