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Subject: Re: Very interesting position.. Crafty vs ProDeo

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:23:55 08/23/04

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On August 23, 2004 at 18:19:06, David Dahlem wrote:

>On August 23, 2004 at 16:23:19, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2004 at 15:51:59, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>[D]6k1/1q3ppp/r7/1rp1P1n1/3p1P2/1P1R2PP/2Q4K/B4R2 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>This position is taken from this thread:
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?383382
>>>
>>>I let Crafty play white and ProDeo play black from this position at 40 moves in
>>>80 minutes. Crafty liked 4.Qe2 for a long time, but finally switched to 4. Rdd1.
>>>There are a lot of critical positions in this game, and ProDeo seems to
>>>understand them all.
>>
>>>Can any engine as white win or draw against ProDeo from
>>>this position?
>>
>>If ProDeo can't the blame is on ProDeo itself, the position is won for black. On
>>a "40 moves in 80 minutes" level I doubt any engine will get away with a draw,
>>else shame on ProDeo.
>>
>>My best,
>>
>>Ed
>
>We have a controversy! Ed Schröder says Nxh3 wins, and Robert Hyatt says it's a
>draw. Who is right. :-)
>
>Regards
>Dave

Incorrect.  :)

Ed says it wins.  I said it doesn't win.  Crafty said it was a draw as did a
couple of other programs.  I just don't see a win yet, myself.  nor a loss...





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