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Subject: Re: Very interesting position.. Crafty vs ProDeo

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 15:31:22 08/23/04

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On August 23, 2004 at 18:23:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 23, 2004 at 18:19:06, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2004 at 16:23:19, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On August 23, 2004 at 15:51:59, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]6k1/1q3ppp/r7/1rp1P1n1/3p1P2/1P1R2PP/2Q4K/B4R2 b - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>This position is taken from this thread:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?383382
>>>>
>>>>I let Crafty play white and ProDeo play black from this position at 40 moves in
>>>>80 minutes. Crafty liked 4.Qe2 for a long time, but finally switched to 4. Rdd1.
>>>>There are a lot of critical positions in this game, and ProDeo seems to
>>>>understand them all.
>>>
>>>>Can any engine as white win or draw against ProDeo from
>>>>this position?
>>>
>>>If ProDeo can't the blame is on ProDeo itself, the position is won for black. On
>>>a "40 moves in 80 minutes" level I doubt any engine will get away with a draw,
>>>else shame on ProDeo.
>>>
>>>My best,
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>We have a controversy! Ed Schröder says Nxh3 wins, and Robert Hyatt says it's a
>>draw. Who is right. :-)
>>
>>Regards
>>Dave
>
>Incorrect.  :)
>
>Ed says it wins.  I said it doesn't win.

Hmmm... If it doesn't win, then it's a draw or loss, right?

Regards
Dave

Crafty said it was a draw as did a
>couple of other programs.  I just don't see a win yet, myself.  nor a loss...




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