Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:49:45 08/23/04
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On August 23, 2004 at 19:23:02, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On August 23, 2004 at 17:40:15, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 23, 2004 at 15:26:05, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> >>>On August 23, 2004 at 14:33:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On August 23, 2004 at 13:46:34, Alessandro Scotti wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 23, 2004 at 13:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>OK, we are at Nxh3 Kxh3 Rh6+ Kg4 g6 Qe2 >>>>>> >>>>>>Crafty says draw here. as it has from the point Nxh3 was first played... >>>>> >>>>>Let me recap! >>>>> >>>>>We started from: >>>>> >>>>>6k1/1q3ppp/r7/1rp1P1n1/3p1P2/1P1R2PP/2Q4K/B4R2 b - f3 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>and after Nxh3 Kxh3 Rh6+ Kg4 g6 Qe2 Pro Deo says: Rb6 (f5 gxf5+ Rxf5 Qh1...) >>>>>which it scores 1.65 (at depth 11 on my humble Athlon 700 MHz). >>>> >>>> >>>>Ok. Continuing, Nxh3 Kxh3 Rh6+ Kg4 g6 Qe2 Rb6 f5 gxf5+ Rxf5 Qh1 >>>> >>>>I play Bxd4 >>> >>>Shredder 8 (2 best moves, AMD@3000+, after 10 min) >>> >>>[d]6k1/5p1p/1r5r/2p1PR2/3B2K1/1P1R2P1/4Q3/7q b - - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>> >>>1. µ (-0.79): 7...cxd4 8.Rf4 Thg6 9.g4 Tb4 10.Rg3 Dg1+ 11.Rh3 Th6+ 12.Th5 Dh1+ >>>13.Rg3 Txh5 14.gxh5 Dd5 15.Rf4 Txb3 >>>2. ³ (-0.64): 7...Thg6+ 8.Rf4 cxd4 9.g4 Dc1+ 10.Rf3 Tb7 11.Tf4 Th6 12.Rg3 Dg1+ >>>13.Dg2 De1+ 14.Df2 Dxe5 15.Dxd4 De1+ 16.Df2 >> >> >>Either of those looked reasonable when I was analyzing this. Once I get my >>class stuff ready for tonight's class, I'll try to do some analysis since ProDeo >>apparently played cxd4 in response. I had looked at the rook check or Kf4 as >>the two likely candidates if black took rather than checked me first.. > >But the point of this line is missed sooner , see >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?383760 >3...Rbb6 +3 and the game is over Maybe. But then Pro Deo is the one that found the move and didn't play Rbb6. So what to conclude there? +3 from Shredder is not always convincing. I have seen +5 turn into draws many times playing on ICC. Sometimes it is way optimistic also...
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