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Subject: Re: Elchinito can use crafty's position.bin file (posbin in ElChinito)

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 06:46:59 08/24/04

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On August 24, 2004 at 00:05:12, Jim Jones wrote:

>Just copy position.bin from crafty to posbin in Elchinito's directory.
>It doesn't seem to use crafty's opening book but it doesn't crash on it
>either.
>
>You can see it at least open posbin from crafty with Taskinfo.
>
>
>After reading some of Frank's replies.  Is he trying to cover for these
>frauds only because he is in hot water for including what turned out to
>be a clone?  Is he covering for himself?
>
>Is he waiting for the ElClonito authors to notify Dr. Hyatt that, "Oh
>by the way we stole significant portions of your program without attributing
>anything to you in anyway.  Is it okay for us to steal your blood, sweat,
>and tears?"
>
>If you haven't already take a look at the crafty source.  Look at the copyright
>notice in main.c
>
>/* last modified 01/26/04 */
>/*
> *******************************************************************************
> *                                                                             *
> *  Crafty, copyright 1996-2001 by Robert M. Hyatt, Ph.D., Associate Professor *
> *  of Computer and Information Sciences, University of Alabama at Birmingham. *
> *                                                                             *
> *  All rights reserved.  No part of this program may be reproduced in any     *
> *  form or by any means, for other than your personal use, without the        *
> *  express written permission of the author.  This program may not be used in *
> *  whole, nor in part, to enter any computer chess competition without        *
> *  written permission from the author.  Such permission will include the      *
> *  requirement that the program be entered under the name "Crafty" so that    *
> *  the program's ancestry will be known.                                      *
> *                                                                             *
> *  Copies of the source must contain the original copyright notice intact.    *
> *                                                                             *
> *  Any changes made to this software must also be made public to comply with  *
> *  the original intent of this software distribution project.  These          *
> *  restrictions apply whether the distribution is being done for free or as   *
> *  part or all of a commercial product.  The author retains sole ownership    *
> *  and copyright on this program except for 'personal use' explained below.   *
> *                                                                             *
> *  personal use includes any use you make of the program yourself, either by  *
> *  playing games with it yourself, or allowing others to play it on your      *
> *  machine,  and requires that if others use the program, it must be clearly  *
> *  identified as "Crafty" to anyone playing it (on a chess server as one      *
> *  example).  Personal use does not allow anyone to enter this into a chess   *
> *  tournament where other program authors are invited to participate.  IE you *
> *  can do your own local tournament, with Crafty + other programs, since this *
> *  is for your personal enjoyment.  But you may not enter Crafty into an      *
> *  event where it will be in competition with other programs/programmers      *
> *  without permission as stated previously.                                   *
> *                                                                             *
>
>
>What part of the word "COPYRIGHT" does Frank not understand?

Hi,

1.
What part of my messages do you not understand?

2.
What is the part of yourself in this constellation?
You are the programmer of Crafty, of ELChinito or you are the persons which add
the program on a webpage? If so, what do you have for interest that I understand
the copyrights?

You have the opinion I have to delete ELChinito on Arena webpage?

Tell me more ...

For your information:
I know what I have do to, I start the thread of this topic with a question to
Bob. I mailed Bob and Eugenio and try to solved the problem. I try to solved the
problem as good as possible.

You have the same interest?
Means, you have the same interest to search a good way for all?
Thinking on it, we have no information about Eugenio.

I know that the time of waiting is a hard time for all persons which try to make
a little bit problems.

What do you think if others make the same with yourself and you have not give a
defention.

From which country you are?
What make the persons in your country in such a case?

In Germany I think we have good possiblitys to give each person a chance!

Copyrights are very important!
I know the copyrights of Crafty because I collect all Crafty versions for around
two years for a special crafty download area. I read the copyrights asked Bob
and make it. I have on more times in the years to write copyrights.

Tell me ...
What is your problem!

You find a little bit out and try to play the judge?
I never will be a judge and wait of the official statement from Eugenio for
build a complete opinion. My opinion is not complete and within I will wait a
little bit.

And now ...
Have a lot of fun with our great hobby!
We all like it ...

Best
Frank



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