Author: Daniel Jackson
Date: 19:12:18 08/24/04
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On August 24, 2004 at 20:48:26, Thomas Logan wrote: >On August 24, 2004 at 20:33:08, Derek Paquette wrote: > >>On August 24, 2004 at 15:50:20, Pallav Nawani wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2004 at 14:22:10, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>Hydra is the perfect machine to cruch Kramnik or Kasparov due to the fact that >>>>Hydra is NOT commercial like Deeper Blue. I wonder if Hydra is already stronger >>>>than Deeper Blue, only if the owner of Deeper Blue can makes it available to >>>>play a match against Hydra. >>>> >>>>Jorge >>> >>>Reality check: >>> >>>1. Hydra beat Shredder due to its superior hardware. >>>2. Human Vs Machine (like Kasparove Vs Deep Blue) games always have dice loaded >>>in favour of machines: >>> (a) You can study all the games Kasparove played and accordingly plan your >>>openings/tweak your playing style, while Kasparove gets to analyze _none_ of the >>>deep blue games. This is a strong (and unfair) advantage. >>> (b) Computer programs can use tablebases, allowing them perfect play in >>>endings - access to extra knowledge which humans don't have. Can Kasparov >>>consult a ending book during a match? >>> >>>Give kasparov 100 Hydra games to analyze & then play a match against him. He >>>will bury Hydra. He was able to go toe to toe with deep blue, a machine a order >>>of magnitude faster than Hydra. He can defintely handle Hydra. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Pallav >> >>Some information for you, >>Hydra has ALREADY played more games than kasparov will play in his lifetime on >>the playchess server under several accounts, >> >>Kasparov CAN study hydra games >> >>If he does, he will realize he cannot win, and decline the match offer, as it >>has become clear that humans no longer have the ability to punish, crush or beat >>computers in a tournament time control match. > >I tend to agree > >But it sure would be fun to watch no matter who wins > >Tom Ah...do you people remember how stupid Kasparov made Deep Fritz look in Game 3? That type of chess will make all programs look pretty lame. Too bad more GM's wouldn't bother with this forum, but that is partly due to the arrogance they read, like the above. Hydra is an oversized chess computer, nothing more nothing less. It's _not_ unbeatable, it's not a god....it's circuits, boards, and wires, with programed data flowing through it....it is fast, but nothing compared to human wetware when properly tuned!
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