Author: Daniel Jackson
Date: 21:15:43 08/24/04
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On August 24, 2004 at 21:55:05, Derek Paquette wrote: >On August 24, 2004 at 15:14:16, odell jones wrote: > >>Maybe there is still yet not enough games played? > > >This is really a non issue, >its proven its worth on the playchess site >its beaten Shredder decisively >It beat the hell out of that GM , 4th game pending, *more likely another win for >hydra* > >Its running on a 16way, xeon system with FPGA cards in it, >It has a Dr. in mathematical stastics programming it, >It has TWO GM's advising, >It has yet ANOTHER university doogooder helping with programming, >It has a very large budget, > >of course it is the strongest in the world, Maybe.. > >Does all of this sound like something else? yes absolutely, >Deep Blue, and at the time, DB was the strongest around, and at this time, Hydra >is the strongest around, > >Now the true question of, have computers over-taken humans? >your damn right they have, No, they haven't, and the reason is knowledge, humans have it computers don't. They have information, not knowledge. > >Hydra is the smallest of fish in a very big pond with very big fish in 'super >computer' terms > >Deep Gene, which is being released in 2005 or 2006 (not sure if they have been >delayed) is going to do 1 QUADRILLION calculations a second, the fastest right >now is the Earth Simulator which does about 38 trillion, (if i remember >correctly) 35 actually.. > >If you were to spend the 250 MILLION dollars on Deep Gene, making a program for >chess that runs on it, utilizing the 1 quadrillion calculations a second, > >you would find an unbeatable machine, even for other machines, Other machines yes.. > >there would be simply no comparison, >with money comes brains >with brains comes ideas >with money comes resources >with resources comes results > >You can't even compare a human to a true super computer at this point in the >game, Yes you can! Read above... If the machine doesn't fully understand what to do in positions of a non tactical nature, and they don't...they will be lulled into the hangman's noose, and I don't care if they can do sextillion calculations per second, they could be made to look stupid, because they are stupid! > >the 'meaning' of man vs machine at this point, is > >Desktop computer vs Human > >not man vs MACHINE. Your opinion, one not shared by everyone.
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