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Subject: Re: Tournament update

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 13:51:41 01/05/99

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On January 05, 1999 at 12:12:14, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On January 05, 1999 at 11:15:02, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 1999 at 08:56:08, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 1999 at 01:39:51, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why is MCP8 playing much worse in SSDF? Is it playing worse against old
>>>>programs or is 90 games simple too few?
>>>
>>>I don't know what is the explanation, but the performance of Mchess 8 in my
>>>tournament reflects quite well what I think of it in terms of strength. The
>>>difference between my tournament and the SSDF list may be due of course to the
>>>relatively small number of games I play, but also to the fact that I play all
>>>programs on identical platforms and with the maximum RAM they can allocate for
>>>hashtables. I just looked at the games posted by the SSDF with both opponents
>>>playing on P200MMX machines. These 376 games would give the following relative
>>>ratings:
>>>
>>>		#Games	Elo
>>>Hiarcs 6          84    141
>>>Fritz 5          336    106
>>>MCP 7.1           90     59
>>>Genius 5.0        92     19
>>>Shredder 2.0      80    -12
>>>Rebel 9           30    -38
>>>Comet-A.90        40   -281
>>>
>>>As you can see, this has little to do with the SSDF list. I don't mean to say
>>>that this proves anything at all. There are few games played by R9 and Comet,
>>>many of the games played by the SSDF on equal P200MMX are not posted, etc.
>>>Still, the difference is quite striking.
>>>
>>>>I think 40/40 in P400 is quite
>>>>equal to 40/2h in 200MMX and results should be close to SSDF.
>>>
>>>40/40 on PII-400s is very close to 40/120 on P200MMX.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>Can anyone improvise a rating list from the SSDF P200MMX vs. P200MMX matches ?
>
>They only posted 376 games P200MMX-P200MMX. The only possible list with this
>short number of games is the one above. But there are many more games played by
>the SSDF with both opponents playing on these machines, only that they are not
>posted. For instance, not a single Junior 5 game of this kind.
>
>Enrique
>
>>Amir

I think you're not looking in the right place. Download the DOS-zipped full
list, and you will see there all results of matches ever played, starting, for
example, with a Fritz5 vs. Junior5 40-game match.

Amir




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