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Subject: Re: An important message to CCC members....

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:56:00 08/25/04

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On August 25, 2004 at 05:41:09, Daniel Clausen wrote:

>On August 25, 2004 at 05:04:00, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2004 at 20:54:33, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>
>>>It's all very interesting these differing opinions. I'm just wondering whether
>>>all the users who want to discuss about computer chess would like to go to
>>>USENET. I'm not sure that Steve thought it was a good idea either.
>>>
>>>You have got me facinated however. Where is this moderate, frugal, limited,
>>>ordinary place we should all go to talk about computer chess?
>>
>>http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&group=rec.games.chess.computer
>
>I'm neither pro or contra USENET here, but keep in mind, that the discussion
>style would change slightly. In USENET it can take up to a day until everyone
>can see the post. It's also possible that you see the answer to something w/o
>seeing the original question yet. Nothing wrong with that, but it's something
>different to how CCC works at the moment.

A big problem of CCC is that it moves too fast and that searching in archives
never works and after a day or 2 all postings you did you can't read any reply
from anymore as they are gone. Usenet gets saved everywhere.

A good example is that a few years ago here at CCC hyatt posted that he had
tested quad xeons with 1MB L2 cache versus Xeons with several MB's L2 cache and
saw zero difference in speed.

Now we have a big thread here where he denies it.

At RGCC such an idiocy would not happen. You search his old posting and dang, he
has to shut up.

Now there have been tens of postings with Kerrigan in all his rights exploding
and Hyatt keeping posting nonsense.

Even worse is that in CCC this nonsense gets posted within a few minutes. In
RGCC it takes at least 1 minute for your posting to show up and a few minutes
for world wide distribution.

Note that if you want to pay for a message board system that will cost you the
big amount of 12 dollar a month, if you want your own root server with 1.2
terabyte bandwidth a month it goes up to 50 dollar a month soon.

Starting a member paid message board system is the biggest idiocy i ever read
about.

CCC is already reaching so little persons.

Someone interested in computerchess will not soon find CCC. In fact they never
find it as you need a username and a password to login.

I do not know a single computerchess enthusiast who found himself this forum.

Now let alone people who are interested in computerchess but are not very
fanatical searching for information.

>Also, messages which only make sense for a few minutes or hours (like
>game-number of a certain game in ICC) won't be possible anymore. Some people
>will consider this a good thing, others a bad thing.
>
>Another point is that moderation as it works here won't work there. You either
>have no moderation or you have a moderated group, where each post has to be
>approved first before it gets forwarded to the group. (at least I think that's
>how it works, please correct me if I'm wrong)
>
>Sargon



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