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Subject: Re: Some observations about future of CCC.....

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 09:25:01 08/25/04

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On August 25, 2004 at 11:13:48, Steven Schwartz wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>First of all, thanks for all the kind words about my company. Although there is
>one person who seems to feel that we run CCC/CTF off ICD bandwidth - which we do
>not, and believes that the message board brings us lots of customers - which it
>does not.
>
>As far as the issue about hosting CCC (and CTF) is concerned....
>I took a quick count of the responses to the choices I laid out. Here are the
>results (wasn't easy to count since some people made no specific letter choice
>but rather made general comments), at least as far as members who posted their
>choices as of now:
>
>12      a) some other organization can take over the responsibility of hosting
> 4      b) CCC and CTF can be disbanded and members can rejoin the USENET
>44      c) members can pay a yearly fee to belong
> 5      d) members can voluntarily contribute
>
>There were, as usual, many, many differing opinions about how to fix the
>problem, but I thought Ed posted about the issue most eloquently:
>
>"Think about the work involved, first the daily work of making the archives, the
>complaints by email about moderation issues, the legal threats some people make
>when they are banned, can the person really stand the heat, or will be shut down
>the website? Then the work involved regarding 2 mod elections a year. Then so
>now and then the site will go down, suppose the person is on vacation or ill?
>
>Here is some more, the person fells in love, priorities change, goodbye with the
>forum. People move to other cities, get a new and very busy job, people get
>sick, become a father, change priorities all the time -> there goes the forum
>again. The end result is so predictable.... CTF will run from pillar to post, 2
>times a year at least.
>
>Wanna bet?
>Ed :)"
>
>
>Some of you have been with us since the beginning of CCC almost 7 years ago.
>Certainly it is the members who make a forum interesting and exciting, but it is
>like a Broadway show. The play goes on and is a big hit not only because of the
>actors out front but also because of the people who do the work "behind the
>scenes". Hosting is only a small part of what needs to be done to have these
>forums run correctly. I would never want my company to ever be associated with
>anything that was not run correctly. But time has come for some change. The
>market has dictated that. I think I may have a solution that might please most
>(you can never please everyone). Let me refine it and make a proposal later.
>
>In the meantime, as usual, I welcome feedback.
>
>Steve
>ICD/Your Move Chess & Games



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